Posted on Aug 22, 2014
CPT Aaron Kletzing
361K
2.13K
963
111
111
0
Confed2
Confed
Recently, I had a long and heated discussion with a fellow veteran about this issue. I don't know for sure whether a branch-specific reg or a DoD-wide reg exists that prohibits/allows personnel on a military installation to display the Confederate flag on their personal vehicle or on their person (e.g. a belt buckle). Maybe this is a base-specific policy and left to the judgment of the installation commander. Display of the Confederate flag is a divisive issue and people often feel really strongly one way or the other. But today, it is still a relevant topic and touches on other military leadership/discipline areas, including the actions of one member deeply offending another member -- regardless of whether said action is legal/authorized. That can create huge problems in a military unit, and this happened in a unit I personally served in. So, below are my questions for the RallyPoint community about this issue.

Please try to keep comments professional (don't attack one another) and explain your thoughts as best you can.

Questions:
(1) How do you feel about the Confederate flag being displayed on the vehicle/person of a service member if he/she is ON post? How does your opinion change if the member is OFF post?
(2) What does the Confederate flag symbolize to you personally? What do you think it can symbolize to other people around you who may perceive it differently?
(3) If you have personally experienced a military-related situation where a symbol/flag caused someone to be offended, what happened and what did you/would you have done as the leader?

I look fwd to everyone's thoughts on this. Personally, I have some strong feelings about this issue, though I don't want to bias people's answers upfront. Please be as honest as possible.

Tag: SSG Emily Williams Col (Join to see) 1SG Steven Stankovich SSG Scott Williams 1LT Sandy Annala CPT (Join to see) SSG V. Michelle Woods MSG Carl Cunningham
Edited 10 y ago
Avatar feed
Responses: 326
SSgt Daniel d'Errico
0
0
0
My experience with the confederate flag really began in 1971, when upon after enlisting in USAF, I was to Lackland AFB for training. Being in Texas, I saw alot of Confederate flags. On and off base, on cars, trucks, belt buckles, etc. Being a New York raised teen, I didn't feel intiminated or threaten. After BMT, came tech school in Illionois. More Confederate flags on base, not so many in town. Then came my first duty assignment to Udon RTAFB, Thailand., my assignment was in Det.1, 56SOW. The AGE shop had a break table (hand made, picnic type) with the top painted with a Confederate flag on it. 99% of the 10 of us were southern born raised or sympathectic. Talk about : the sole yankee in the deep south! I made myself clear, that the battle flag of the south, didn't make me feel uncomfortable, angry or out of place. We all got along fine. After my tour came LittleRock AFB, Arkansas. I felt like the assignments God in D.C., was a southerner! No problem there either. Five years there, a BOP for Hurlburt Field, FL, back to Special Operations and deeeeeeepp in the heart of Dixie. Confederate flags on the flag poles everywhere! The base even had the old flag of Florida, with the Confederate half flag flying. Tours in Germany, Japan, TDYs to Saudi Arabia, Korea and numerous other countries and the stars and bars of the south followed me. Finally my last duty station would land me in Holloman AFB, NM. Not many stars and bars there, but still there were many to be seen. Was offended by seeing them everywhere I was based? NO. I remember a race relations class in Arkansas, with a black instructor. He played high school football in Louisiana and had a white team mate who had sewen a confederate flag on his team jersey. Their team was playing another state's school that was up north. This teenager became really concerned about showing the stars and bars at that game. The instructor told him, that flag he worn was colored red, white and blue. Just like the American flag. He was a southern American and should stand proud as one. I agree. If you weren't born in the USA, but became a citizen, and you xsewed on your homland's flag or fly from the mirror of your car, along with the American flag. Be proud, you're an American now. Okay haters come at me
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SMSgt Jane B.
0
0
0
Many of my ancestors fought for the Confederacy (and many more for the Union). I personally am not offended by the flag, but I understand that many folks are. I wouldn't have an issue with display of the Confederate flag on or off post. To me, the Confederate flag is a symbol of history, a symbol of family, a symbol of home. Now, some folks have used the flag in a racist way--I denounce those actions.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SPC Jesse Davis
0
0
0
It is distinctly unprofessional, provocative, and political as all hell.

One way or the other, that treasonous and racist nonsense has no business in the military or on any installation.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
1SG Dale Cantrell
0
0
0
The rebel flag is just a rebel flag, shows wild character, just like a Texas or New York flag . But I do question seeing all those flags flying from different countries, if the s--- hit the fan, what flag do they follow
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
TSgt Logistics Plans
0
0
0
If you’re going to ban one flag ban everyone that’s not the US flag.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SPC Steven Caliendo
0
0
0
First of all, that is not the Confederate flag, that's the Confederate Battle Flag. I'm an old soldier who fought in Vietnam, anytime I would see that flag I really thought nothing of it back then, just some Southern Boys showing their pride in where they came from. It never diminished their pride in America or their sense of Duty or their willingness to engage the enemy. In my opinion it still doesn't! I find people kneeling when our national anthem is played and Our Stars and Stripes displayed as more offensive! But that's my opinion.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SSgt Albert Childress
0
0
0
I own a Confederate flag, was not born in the U.S., am a legal immigrant who identifies as an American, but I know true history of civil war. And, for those who are offended by a flag, or a statue, of something that actually occurred in the history of this country, are those that only know what the media and others tell them, instead of researching facts. Most in the South, who own the flag, to include black Americans, do so to show pride in where they live and were born. But, because of weak politically correct minded individuals who are trying to erase history, as if it didn't happen, are offended by something that most know absolutely nothing about.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SPC Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
0
0
0
I remember I was heading into the headquarters building of 3id Fort Stewart for work I saw the division CSM ripping this guy a new one in the parking lot. The soldier was displaying a huge confederate flag from the tailgate of his truck. Later that same soldier and his entire battalion chain of command appeared at my desk requesting badges for access to the building. I later found out that the soldier was flying South Carolina klan colors, and th CSM ripped the soldier again in front everyone that meant something in his battalion, along with a courts martial to get him pushed out.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
CPO Paul Klein
0
0
0
I personally have no issues with anyone displaying the Confederate battle flag, and believe it is a part of both Southern and US history. I understand that some may have issues with it, but also feel that much of the hysteria is being inflamed by the media and troublemakers trying to create an issue. I have never had an issue with anyone wearing or displaying the confederate flag, but did have one issue with someone wearing a Nazi swastika.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SGT Floyd Shown
0
0
0
What will come next? Let us rename all the bases in the south. Yeah, Gen, Braxton Bragg, Confederate. general George McClellan, Confederate. Fort Lee, Fort Eustis, Fort Gordon, Fort Benning and Fort Polk were ALL named after confederate generals. We need to stop pushing the racist diatribe of the left and remember that men on BOTH sides fought for their state and their Nation. The secession of the south was IDENTICAL to the secession of the 13 original colonies from England. Stop perpetuating hate and realize that honoring the fallen is not wrong. Honoring your state is not wrong. Honoring your ancestors is not wrong. Learn the REAL history of the war and stop perpetuating the revisionist lies about slavery that was used to justify the invasion of the CSA. We are now ONE NATION. Start behaving like it and quit being pansies taking offense at everything.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close