Posted on Feb 2, 2014
CMDCM Gene Treants
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<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 17 [login to see] 57617px;">Sorry, Coke if you don't sing America the beautiful in English, you lose. &nbsp;I sing "O Tannebaum" in German as well as Silega Nacht." &nbsp;"America the Beautiful" and The National Anthem should be in English.&nbsp;</span><div><font color="#333333" face="lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 17 [login to see] 57617px;"><br></span></font><div><font color="#333333" face="lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 17 [login to see] 57617px;">I was born in Germany and am 1/2 German &amp; Greek. &nbsp;I speek German, Italian, and English and Amerixa is my Home Country. &nbsp;As all of my fellow Vets, Retired, and Active Service Members I have earned the right to my opinion. &nbsp;English is the language that UNITES us as it did our parents and grandparents, it has not like some languages divided us. &nbsp;</span></font></div></div>
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I think it is awesome that "America the Beautiful" has been translated into so many languages. I found the commercial to be patriotic, thought-provoking and beautiful. I am apparently one of very few in the military community who feels this way, however. I deactivated my Facebook tonight after a barrage of comments and texts reminded me of how greatly my worldview differs from my family and peers.
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SFC Watkins,

A wise man recently said: "but how will you ever know if your doors are closed and you are now locked away?"

Deactivating your Facebook tonight after a barrage of comments and texts reminding you of how greatly your worldview differs from your family and peers I think is disturbing. Why would you do that when everyone has the right to there own thoughts? How many people do you work with that have different worldviews from you? You going to close out them to? Facebook is a good tool to keep in touch. Dont let opinion of others effect your life (not saying facebook is a way of life).

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I didn't deactivate it to shut out other peoples viewpoints, I am one of the most open-minded people I know and can honestly see both sides of this argument, to an extent. I deactivated it because receiving angry texts from family members demanding to know why I think it's ok for "terrorists to sing "AMERICA'S" song was very distracting to the productivity of my thesis paper, which was already stressing me out. I reactivated it when the smoke cleared. :)

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Its a shame that you received such negativity on what was something so simple.
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Thank you SFC Watkins and SFC Hintz. You both hit the nail on the head with exceptional explanations and said it better than I could have.
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"America The Beautiful" is an American anthem, not the National Anthem. We are a country of immigrants and every image in the ad is part of the American landscape, San Francisco, Seattle, New York, Cedar Rapids, Montana, Arizona. The women wearing hijab in Chinatown...<br><br>It is a celebration of our diversity. Personally, I hate Coke for their economic priorities, but what they did here was an exceptional portrayal of what America is, or at least should be. Acceptance and celebration of a diversity that makes America unique.<br>
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SSgt George Brown
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CW2 Evans, 
In the greater community we have become homogeneous, in fact, it is illegal to "steer" people to areas with greater concentrations of one class, orientation, or race.  IF there is a concentration now, IT IS BY CHOICE.  American Indians, (I do not use the term native, for if you were born here you are, in fact native) choose to live on their tribal lands today, in fact, if they purchase land adjoining their "reservation" they can incorporate it onto their tribes "nation".  
As far as inner cities are concerned, the democrat party has owned those for over 40 years, and their "lot" in life has NOT IMPROVED, in fact, those who live in the squalor conditions, and the fear of being killed, or raped, or pulled into a gang life, has gotten far worse over those decades.  
As far as the KKK & Westboro Baptist, those were also Democrat inventions.  And the Dixiecrat myth which you will try to claim wont fly, http://www.examiner.com/article/the-dixiecrat-myth 
Westboro's pastor ran for president on the Democrat Ticket.  Al Gore went there to get his endorsement, and he got it http://www.pinterest.com/jmsdysart/gore-and-fred-phelps/

No one is saying whites are entitled to anything, that is another myth by liberals to assuage their feelings of somehow harming others (and liberals actually do with their policies and with the unintended consequences of their actions) when they nor anyone else has today (except possibly pimps) ever owned slaves.  If you feel bad about it, Walter Williams, a black man, has a gift for you! http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/WalterWilliamsAmnestyProclamation.pdf

You are also lumping in a LOT of people whose ancestry was not here while slavery existed, that would be the Irish and Scots due to the Potato famine from the 1840's (you cannot argue about the civil war being in the 1860's for these folks, for they were poor and England had outlawed slavery as evil years before and they would have grown up understanding this) and further immigration until the 1920's and the German immigration following WW1 and 2.  

Was there a lot of wrong done?  YES  Have we tried to correct it?  YES And that is a good thing.

Since you visit "Liberal Planet" I can see why you loath your ancestry.
Tell me, does liberal planet tell you of the racist reasons that Margaret Sanger started planned parenthood? "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with
social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most
successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal.
We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro
population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if
it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
-- Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255
Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith
Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in
Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth
Control in America . New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.
 
William Jefferson Clinton's mentor, J. William Fulbright was a rabid racist and pushed the Democrat party to VOTE AGAINST the Civil Rights Bill, that only passed with a majority of Republicans voting for it.  http://historyhalf.com/race-and-party-politics-part-ii-senator-fullbright-and-justice-black/

The democrat party had a past KKK grand wizard in it's leadership until his death in 2010.  Although he publicly repudiated his past, he wrote letters to the KKK after he said he cut ties with them stating a different feeling.  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cbb_ [login to see]

Now, the reason I am bringing these things up is to show you that no one is perfect, and to not point fingers, the only person that can live a life you think you should live is YOU.  If you are just talking and not going out to help those in need with YOUR money and YOUR effort, you are just adding to the problem, not solving it.  

The reason for my first post is your lumping all white protestants together and bad people.  That is being prejudiced as well.  When you get all your talking points from an echo chamber, you might find that the echo chamber is wrong.  

The echo chamber is now saying those who oppose President Obama, do so because of race, however, Bill Clinton was white, Al Gore was white, Robert Mondale was white, and I apposed all of them on policy issues, just the same as I appose President Obama on policy issues.  

For those claiming otherwise, it is offensive an a lie.  If his opponent in the last election would have been Herman Cain I would have voted for Herman Cain.  If the nominee in the next election is Dr. Benjamin Carson, I will vote for Dr. Benjamin Carson because of his policy stance.  Unlike those who voted for President Obama BECAUSE HE IS "BLACK" (a subjective term), I choose to follow Martin Luther King's encouragement to not look at skin color but content of character.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
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Ssgt,
   My use of "WASP Fascism" is based on those that have intentionally exercised white privilege. My apologies if you took offense. Just because you are white, doesn't make you a cracker or a redneck either. You are either a redneck, or a cracker or fascist, or you are not.
   While the commercial seems to have created a division in America, the line appears to be between the xenophiles and the xenophobes.
   As for historical political ideologies, the Republican platform of Eisenhower is not the platform of Cruz or Cain, any more than the Democratic Platform looks anything like Adlai Stevenson's.
   And my echo chamber is no worse than yours. The political extremes are both pure BS. There is an oversimplification of economics, politics, social stratification. There is a historical ignorance that insists on a re-enactment of some of the United States most turbulent times before we'll be able to achieve growth again.
   Current liberal and conservative ideologies are false. They are based on ideological lies that bear little resemblance to reality. There is not a political ideology (Republican, Democratic, Libertarian, etc) that does not lead to fascism at this point. The question seems to be 1984 or Soylent Green.
   There has got to be another option, and we aren't getting it from the talking faces.
  
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CMDCM Gene Treants
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Warrant Officer Evans, I really appreciate the reserach into Katherine Bates.  That is the kind of information that keeps dabates alive by introducing new and unexpected facts, FACTS just when everything was becomming dull (lol) and opinionated.  Thanks for all you are doing to keep this thread going.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
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LOL, while my "antagonist" is right in that the meme is borrowed from a suspect liberal site, wikipedia does to a certain degree bear out the claims.
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America was named &nbsp;after a 15th century Spanish explorer and merchant named Amerigo . It was settled by immigrants from all over the world speaking many different languages. The commercial was a terrific tribute to the multitude of different cultures that are here in America.&nbsp;
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