Posted on Oct 30, 2016
"Drain the swamp" is a reference to an ecosystem that reflects the Everglades and the Louisiana bayou. Is that a knowledgeable metaphor?
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Think about it. A healthy swamp is infact full of life and unless man destroys the environment with toxic waste, it is a valuable resource that filters freshwater before it drains into the sea. How does a President "drain the swamp" without becoming a dictator who would destroy everything good we are evolving toward? An invasive species could alter the swamp ecosystem and result in our demise as a nation. The metaphor may be appealing to some, but it is missing the target with educated women. What would happen to Duck Dynasty?
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Drain the swamp" originally means to get rid of the malaria-carrying mosquitoes by draining the swamp. Figuratively, "drain the swamp" means "to exterminate something that is harmful" or anything that most of the people hate such as corruption or government waste. This term is especially attractive for politicians during campaign.
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There is nothing healthy about the swamp he's referring to. Perhaps festering boil on the a$$ of the nation is more appropriate.
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
You see, you came up with a more appropriate description. Maybe a bit more gruesome, but that never stopped trump before.
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Perhaps pump the septic tank might be more accurate but drain the swamp conveys the same message without the bodily waste component. Everyone knows what drain the swap means. It is not a literal swamp/wetland/ecosystem it is a metaphorical one. Way to try to turn the phrase into Trump being a dictator though. You will not need to stretch before PT today. You appear to be pretty loose.
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
Cpl Jeff N. - You keep knowing things as if you have special powers. I just don't see Trump as a "Swamp Fox". To take advantage of an environment and magically cleanse the system would be amazing. He is just the speaker of words that convey a message with some and my critique is he misses the mark with educated women. Perhaps it is just his tenor, or his personality. Inciting a violent result if he isn't elected shames us more. Words have meanings, so this was an exercise in analysis.
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Cpl Jeff N.
Col Rebecca Lorraine . So now you speak for "educated women"? You choose to be insulted by his words which is your prerogative. If you look at how he has actually advanced women in his many business and the successful women around him instead of listening to the media you might walk away with a different impression.
No one can know for sure if he can "cleanse the system" but I know this for sure. HRC will not cleanse the system. She has demonstrated very aptly that she is part of the system of corruption and that goes back to her roots with dear hubby Bill.
He hasn't incited violence if he isn't elected. He has only said that he will wait for the results before blindly accepting them. Very prudent considering the question asked. He was asked if he would accept the results of the election, period. No framing of the question. Any candidate has the ability to request a recount in a close call or to apply for other remedies if there is a suspicious outcome (as Gore did).
The only violence we are now 100% sure of is that the DNC operatives (who have now resigned) did hire people to go beat up, intimidate and stoke violence at Trump rallies. They beat up, intimidated and injured fellow Americans at the DNC's urging and pay. Then the democrat candidates and surrogates came out accusing Trump's words of causing the violence. How does that make an educated woman feel?
No one can know for sure if he can "cleanse the system" but I know this for sure. HRC will not cleanse the system. She has demonstrated very aptly that she is part of the system of corruption and that goes back to her roots with dear hubby Bill.
He hasn't incited violence if he isn't elected. He has only said that he will wait for the results before blindly accepting them. Very prudent considering the question asked. He was asked if he would accept the results of the election, period. No framing of the question. Any candidate has the ability to request a recount in a close call or to apply for other remedies if there is a suspicious outcome (as Gore did).
The only violence we are now 100% sure of is that the DNC operatives (who have now resigned) did hire people to go beat up, intimidate and stoke violence at Trump rallies. They beat up, intimidated and injured fellow Americans at the DNC's urging and pay. Then the democrat candidates and surrogates came out accusing Trump's words of causing the violence. How does that make an educated woman feel?
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
Cpl Jeff N. - What flavor is the koolaide this morning. I don't speak for anyone but the polls and analysis of standings is pretty supportive of my perspective. This was a rhetorical analysis of words and phrases which are uttered to rally the base. You are drifting. Think about it. Original thought. If you were a speech writer, how might we discuss this differently so there is an inclusion of Americans from entire bandwidth. (Another metaphor)
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Cpl Jeff N.
Col Rebecca Lorraine No Kool-Aid being consumed here Rebecca.
Yours was not a rhetorical analysis it was a thinly veiled attempt to get around to calling him a dictator. Your words
"How does a President "drain the swamp" without becoming a dictator who would destroy everything good we are evolving toward?"
You drifted as well. You accused him of inciting violence when the evidence is clear about who did. Then you accused him of not being willing to accept the results of the election. You ignore his actual comments and parrot lines from the media. Then when cornered you try to play coy about your original "rhetorical analysis".
Trump wasn't my guy (I was a Scott Walker supporter). If "educated women" support Clinton then we need to reevaluate the value of higher education.
Yours was not a rhetorical analysis it was a thinly veiled attempt to get around to calling him a dictator. Your words
"How does a President "drain the swamp" without becoming a dictator who would destroy everything good we are evolving toward?"
You drifted as well. You accused him of inciting violence when the evidence is clear about who did. Then you accused him of not being willing to accept the results of the election. You ignore his actual comments and parrot lines from the media. Then when cornered you try to play coy about your original "rhetorical analysis".
Trump wasn't my guy (I was a Scott Walker supporter). If "educated women" support Clinton then we need to reevaluate the value of higher education.
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Colonel... with all due respect this is really lame on your part. The metaphor is well placed in this instance. The analogy that I learned to respect was "Its hard to drain the swamp when you are up to your ass in alligators" I think its clear that the Washington establishment is up to ass.... Your analogy demonstrates you are good trooper for the far left but does not solve the alligator problem. More focus on whats good for the nation and less on agendas that push an ideology and we will all benefit.
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
I'm a registered republican and not a "lib-tard " as I've been called. How well has this metaphor worked? With whom does it resonate? How's the VA doing. Diplomacy begins at home and when you classify people in groups you lose support and the argument. Congress is intentionally a representation. When labeling doesn't work. Deplorables is a perfect example. Call me lame, but respectfully I think the base was offended and I encourage reasonable thought. Not emotional jargon that is on second review, old. Let's move on to specific issues and how a president will negotiate change.
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Is Pelosione on those educated women you speak of?
http://www.redstate.com/diary/barrypopik/2010/07/29/origin-and-history-of-drain-the-swamp-mother-jones-reagan-rumsfeld-pelosi/
http://www.redstate.com/diary/barrypopik/2010/07/29/origin-and-history-of-drain-the-swamp-mother-jones-reagan-rumsfeld-pelosi/
Origin and history of "drain the swamp" (Mother Jones, Reagan, Rumsfeld, Pelosi) | RedState
“Drain the swamp” has had a long history in American politics. Nancy Pelosi said that she’d “drain the swamp” for the most ethical Congress evah. When asked about Charlie Rangel, Steny Hoyer said that he wasn’t the one who had promised to “drain the swamp”! That was Pelosi! Ronald Reagan reminded all, in 1983 after a year in office, that he came to Washington to | Read More »
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MCPO Roger Collins
Col Rebecca Lorraine - And yet you didn't address an educated woman such as Pelosi using it when she became Speaker.
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MCPO Roger Collins
Col Rebecca Lorraine - I don't see why you would, better to cast aspersions. Did you even read the origins of the term?
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
MCPO Roger Collins - I did. The point is it is inaccurate as a metaphor for Washington, especially since Trumps just copying what a woman said.
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It comes from an old saying "When your up to your ass in alligators it's hard to remember that your job was to drain the swamp".
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it needs to be applied to the cesspool in Washington DC and The Congress, the White House and the Presidential Regime...
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
Cesspool is more on target for some. A septic tank. A coffee mug you forgot to empty before you deployed for 6 months, that carton of milk at the back of the fridge, unnatural environments as opposed to natural environments. "Drain the rainforest" "water the desert", I think we need to be a wee bit more original.
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