Posted on Jun 6, 2014
Does anyone think that Veterans (ones that served 4-15 years) that did not retire should have access to the PX Commissary and have support?
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My response, at the end of the day, is "No". Retirees serve 20 years (usually) to earn those lifetime benefits. If we start giving them out to everyone, it would have a drastically negative impact on overall retention. Keep the benefits for retirees only, you gotta get all the tickets to earn this ride!
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SGT Marvin "Dave" Bigham
SGT James Pefley, income goes to civilian employees, contractors, utilities, merchandise selection, property upkeep, effective management of the operation... even sales "at cost", there is revenue to be made AND it can be a bonus to the social lives of vet and active military families.
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SGT Marvin "Dave" Bigham
Respectfully, SFC Smith, you forget the economic value of competition. After twenty years in the hotel industry, I have seen many "similar" businesses open just far enough away from the established firms (hotels, drug stores, groceries, gas, etc.) to draw away some traffic. The old ones will raise their game or fail and we need to see this in the markets around our military bases. Too many spouses and military kids don't experience the US economy before their SM leaves the service and have difficulty dealing with it. The revenue stream generally increases in both regions of the market due to new business modelling and the PX/Commissary system really should get some tweaking. Adding vets may not be the answer, but something should happen.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
If a veteran who is not retired in any sort of way (20 years plus or medical) wants PX and commissary support, they should join the NG or the reserves.
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SGT Marvin "Dave" Bigham
SFC Chris Smith I can see you're of a different opinion and I am fine with your "respectful" response and assumptions about my thoughts of your intellect. (BTW, you are incorrect.) Competition exists if you see it or not. Look at the number of posts stating they can normally buy off-post at a cheaper rate. Even your brother can tell you that there are some markets where a store may operate at or below their cost line due to the firm's marketing plans. I am sure you meant to put a "sting" in your response and it appears you felt insulted by my prior statement about competition. I apologize for any disrespect you read in my post, none was intended.
There are many business models for stores that compete for the SM business and they certainly see the PX/Commissary system as a competitor just as my industry sees temporary military housing as a target for more business. I assure you that in SOME markets I can find you hotels that consistently get the business available from a military post. (BTW- a house does not incur the overhead a hotel does.) While the PX/Commissary system certainly has different rules (as hotels and houses do), they will still respond to an increase of business that vets could bring (assuming we would go to them).
There are many business models for stores that compete for the SM business and they certainly see the PX/Commissary system as a competitor just as my industry sees temporary military housing as a target for more business. I assure you that in SOME markets I can find you hotels that consistently get the business available from a military post. (BTW- a house does not incur the overhead a hotel does.) While the PX/Commissary system certainly has different rules (as hotels and houses do), they will still respond to an increase of business that vets could bring (assuming we would go to them).
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I would say yes with a caveat that one must have honorably served for over 10 years. I believe that if you put at least 10 years of your life into something that you should be able to get something in perpetuity for it.
With that said SFC Smith makes a valid point. The subsidy provided by the px and commissary is designed to help current Soldiers and Retirees. The influx of former Soldiers could significantly impact this subsidy. My suggestion would be a pay for privileges system where the former Soldiers that want the privileges can pay a set fee every year for them. I'm thinking like a Sam's Club or Costco style system.
With that said SFC Smith makes a valid point. The subsidy provided by the px and commissary is designed to help current Soldiers and Retirees. The influx of former Soldiers could significantly impact this subsidy. My suggestion would be a pay for privileges system where the former Soldiers that want the privileges can pay a set fee every year for them. I'm thinking like a Sam's Club or Costco style system.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
SPC(P) Cecil,
This is an interesting concept. I could see where this could work.
This is an interesting concept. I could see where this could work.
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I think any veteran that served their country during a wartime conflict deserves full benefits. Nothing against a 20 year vet who served without seeing any conflict. Don't get me wrong, I have much respect for all vets. BUT, a 20 year vet with no conflict time vs. a vet with any conflict time and the latter not being able to get those benefits to me is wrong. Think about that way and let me know if you think differently.
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