Posted on Jan 26, 2016
Do you feel that PT is emphasized above tactical or technical proficiency in your unit?
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Many times I hear that APFT score is the main deciding factor on who to send to school and recommend for promotions. I am wondering if this is common on a wider scale, outside of my personal interactions.
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When it comes to schools, PT for me is only a qualifier/ disqualifier. I will not send a Soldier to school only to wash out for PT. I do need people to attend schools in order to prepare them for greater roles in the unit.
The exception I would allow for is hooah schools, where PT is an integral component.
The exception I would allow for is hooah schools, where PT is an integral component.
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PT is one of the most "visible" things we do. Almost everything else is "transparent" and extremely Subjective. However when you put a PFT score down on paper it becomes an Objective way to measure someone against their peers.
When you have limited slots for anything, and you are down to your top 3 candidates, you pick the "most visible" thing. Right or Wrong, PT is going to be a delineation factor. When a 1SG or CO who doesn't get a lot of time with his 100-150 guys has to choose someone, the way he measures "best" is going to come down to very simple terms.
This doesn't mean the PSG or Squad leader didn't use different criteria, just that the funnel changes as we go up, because it is significantly harder to make Subjective analysis when you don't know individuals who are removed from you as well.
When you have limited slots for anything, and you are down to your top 3 candidates, you pick the "most visible" thing. Right or Wrong, PT is going to be a delineation factor. When a 1SG or CO who doesn't get a lot of time with his 100-150 guys has to choose someone, the way he measures "best" is going to come down to very simple terms.
This doesn't mean the PSG or Squad leader didn't use different criteria, just that the funnel changes as we go up, because it is significantly harder to make Subjective analysis when you don't know individuals who are removed from you as well.
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Good points. You cannot expect your commander to know you as well as your first line leader. It is up to that individual evaluate your "transparent" skills.
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I've seen that happen in other units I've been in where a soldiers PT score decides pretty much anything they're allowed to do. I do believe that a soldier should maintain a high level of fitness because PT is part of being a soldier, and there are certain things like Airborne, Air Assault, Ranger, Spec Ops, Sapper, etc. where PT does play a big role, but I don't feel it should be a deciding factor for everything. There can be a soldier who's completely squared away and does his job well but has a little trouble with PT and that soldier won't be able to go to a school or get promoted or whatever the case may be. Now if a soldier is constantly failing their PT test and isn't making an effort to correct it then I can understand them not being selected for promotion or school etc.
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PT is readily quantifiable, so it's easy for a lazy command team to use just that as a deciding factor.
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