Posted on Jan 30, 2018
Can my company give APFTs at off-post locations?
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We have a track everyone uses but my command team feels it’s too short. They measured a track off post however it is a dirt track and is not exactly flat, as it does have potholes. They do not provide transportation to the soldiers to the test site and it is approximately 20-30min from post.
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Of course they can do an APFT off-post. Guard and Reserve units do this routinely.
The only issue really is whether the site can be controlled and meets requirements for elevation change.
The problem with road courses is that there are often issues with the state of repair, loose gravel, and this time of year icy areas. That can be covered in a safety brief.
The only issue really is whether the site can be controlled and meets requirements for elevation change.
The problem with road courses is that there are often issues with the state of repair, loose gravel, and this time of year icy areas. That can be covered in a safety brief.
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SGT Dave Tracy
Agreed. Especially in the Guard and Reserves. In my Reserve unit, we did our runs at the local high school, and if that was not available, we got stuck using the local gym, and let me tell you, its not fun running on a tight bank turn indoor track where you have to make 24-26 laps all while dodging the regular folks using the same damn track!
I actually preferred road runs for the APFT (when I was Active). Granted every road run I had was on decent enough roads, but in my opinion roads were SO much better than even the nicest outdoor track. Besides, ever run on a rubberized high school track on a frosty/snowy winter morning? Talk about "suck"! You have to learn how to slow down in the curves which does quite a number on one's pace and overall time. Once about a dozen or more guys all biffed it together rounding the very 1st turn because it was so slippery. In retrospect (because I was one of those guys) it was kind of funny. One of those moments you kind of wish you had video of. LOL!!!!
I actually preferred road runs for the APFT (when I was Active). Granted every road run I had was on decent enough roads, but in my opinion roads were SO much better than even the nicest outdoor track. Besides, ever run on a rubberized high school track on a frosty/snowy winter morning? Talk about "suck"! You have to learn how to slow down in the curves which does quite a number on one's pace and overall time. Once about a dozen or more guys all biffed it together rounding the very 1st turn because it was so slippery. In retrospect (because I was one of those guys) it was kind of funny. One of those moments you kind of wish you had video of. LOL!!!!
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I'm not quite sure how a track can be too short. Two miles is still two measured miles. I know it has been a while since I've been in, but we ran wherever and whenever instructed. Play the game and feel good someday when you wrap yourself in a DD 214 blanket. Lol
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SGT (Join to see)
That’s what I’ve been doing, I don’t have a problem passing it myself, but it’s a concern for others and an inconvenience for me having to drive 30 min to the test location instead of 10 min to the on post test location.
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CPL Rick Stasny
I see where you are coming from, but if you buck the system and get labeled as a dirtbag. Was it worthwhile. Remember, it's all part ofthe duty day.
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Track...? Really...? Why is it that I just don't understand some of the problems Army units have? Is this a regular Amy unit? Aboard a US Army Installation?
When I was a pup in the Marine Corps, I cannot remember a CP, BOQ, or BEQ that didn't have a set of Pull-up bars and sit toe bars. As far as the run was concerned we ran a course where company formation could march there and back. I remember PFT runs with 6 inch deep puddles 20 foot long. Marines didn't straggle about to training activities, and sure hell didn't get back in their POV's until secured for the day.
When I was a pup in the Marine Corps, I cannot remember a CP, BOQ, or BEQ that didn't have a set of Pull-up bars and sit toe bars. As far as the run was concerned we ran a course where company formation could march there and back. I remember PFT runs with 6 inch deep puddles 20 foot long. Marines didn't straggle about to training activities, and sure hell didn't get back in their POV's until secured for the day.
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SGT (Join to see)
Well Sir, it’s a regular Army unit CONUS.
Something about taking the APFT off-post while on post we have several tracks to run on-post seems off.
Something about taking the APFT off-post while on post we have several tracks to run on-post seems off.
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