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I heard that if you are deployed that BLC and ALC can be waived to get promoted. Is that true?
Waivers
Basic Leaders Course (BLC formerly WLC PLDC)
Advanced Leaders Course (ALC formerly BNCOC)
Promotions
Deployment
Posted >1 y ago
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ARCENT has BLC courses in both Kuwait and Afghanistan. I’d recommend if you have any soldiers that need BLC to get them in class while deployed. I returned about 6 months ago and was able to get a number of soldiers through BLC while deployed.
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It would help if somebody would hunt down the message that defines the issue for the original poster lots of last I heard responses some of them are correct some of them won’t be because it can’t be both ways so if you have access to search the HOC site it be great if you could post the message that’s pertinent
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SGT Eric Davis
1SG Javier "Elvis" Martinez I didn’t ask for it to be waived completely just while deployed
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SGM Erik Marquez
1SG Javier "Elvis" Martinez - The point is, trust but verify.. Taking someones word at face value without verification is a fast way to get your self in trouble, miss an opportunity or have a No Pay Due month ..
Thank you for posting what you believe to be accurate information, my point is a reader who is looking to use that information should also be looking for the message, AR, policy that supports your information offered..and it would be great if that actual message was posted.
Stars and stripes is a media outlet, they have no obligation to do anything other than write stories they think will sell the medium // trusting them as a source to cite from is foolish.
Acting on anything said from memory and what they read or heard someplace is also foolish. Trust, but verify.
Thank you for posting what you believe to be accurate information, my point is a reader who is looking to use that information should also be looking for the message, AR, policy that supports your information offered..and it would be great if that actual message was posted.
Stars and stripes is a media outlet, they have no obligation to do anything other than write stories they think will sell the medium // trusting them as a source to cite from is foolish.
Acting on anything said from memory and what they read or heard someplace is also foolish. Trust, but verify.
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SGM Erik Marquez
1SG Javier "Elvis" Martinez - " I don't know about the whole Stars and Stripes thing because I don't read it. Thanks"
Fair enough... nor do I, but that is irrelevant to the point..
Again the point is, information is good, acting on it without verifying is foolish.
With luck your information to the young Sgt was correct, current and the most update. And I thank you for that..
But if its not, and since you and I are not currently active duty and receiving updates in real time, its not just possible but likely..
Will either of us be standing next to the sergeant when he gets the word, no such waiver was in effect for his MOS, or OML list, or for his deployment location
and he is now dropped from the OML?
OR stand next to him when he tells his wife, he is no longer promotable, that he lost that because he listened to some guy on the internet without verifying the actually DA message?
Be gracious and thankful for any information you receive, trust but verify..that's the point..
Fair enough... nor do I, but that is irrelevant to the point..
Again the point is, information is good, acting on it without verifying is foolish.
With luck your information to the young Sgt was correct, current and the most update. And I thank you for that..
But if its not, and since you and I are not currently active duty and receiving updates in real time, its not just possible but likely..
Will either of us be standing next to the sergeant when he gets the word, no such waiver was in effect for his MOS, or OML list, or for his deployment location
and he is now dropped from the OML?
OR stand next to him when he tells his wife, he is no longer promotable, that he lost that because he listened to some guy on the internet without verifying the actually DA message?
Be gracious and thankful for any information you receive, trust but verify..that's the point..
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SGM Erik Marquez
1SG Javier "Elvis" Martinez - It was advice to others, opinion and a clarification of what I was trying to state... not a lecture, sorry you mistook it that way... and it had nothing to do with my task of an admin here, you would only know I was doing those duty's when you got a privet message.
Im just just a retired Soldier that may have had some experiences others have not. Perhaps learned a thing or two running company's as a 1SG, battalions and a Division G3 to include the Division Schools program, Like perhaps you have in other areas I have no insight on.
BTW, do you have the published DA message for the sergeant? That would really be helpful.... Pretty sure he cant go see his 1sgt and say ... "BUT, Elvis said it was ok"
1SGT at the Academy?> Outstanding, I was Sergeant Major there as a student, CSM Rory Malloy was the commandant at the time and my previous Div CSM I worked for before he left and took the SGM Academy
Im just just a retired Soldier that may have had some experiences others have not. Perhaps learned a thing or two running company's as a 1SG, battalions and a Division G3 to include the Division Schools program, Like perhaps you have in other areas I have no insight on.
BTW, do you have the published DA message for the sergeant? That would really be helpful.... Pretty sure he cant go see his 1sgt and say ... "BUT, Elvis said it was ok"
1SGT at the Academy?> Outstanding, I was Sergeant Major there as a student, CSM Rory Malloy was the commandant at the time and my previous Div CSM I worked for before he left and took the SGM Academy
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Last I had heard or read they were not waiving NCOES for promotion. When I went to ALC, there was a guy in there who was deployed and got sent back to do that and then went right back to Afghanistan after graduation. That was 2012.
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