Posted on Nov 1, 2018
Can an NCO compile events over a period of several months into one counseling if the soldier wasnt counseled at the time it occured?
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Absolutely. Counseling is just a written discussion. There's nothing that says an NCO cannot discuss previous events, even if they were months old. While it may show poor leadership on the NCO to delay the counseling's, it shows worse leadership for them not to be conducted at all.
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SSG Jamil Spruill when the counselor does that, it diminishes the effectiveness of the counseling. For instance, if the goal is to separate the soldier for misconduct and the NCO provides three separate counseling's that were all performed at the same time, it defeats the purpose of the counseling. The purpose of the counseling is to provide feedback for the soldier and give them time and information in order to adapt.
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SSG Jamil Spruill
SFC (Join to see) Thats what I explained to a coworker, its hard to show a trend when you failed to counsel the soldier at the time of occurance. 5 months down the road makes it seem like you wanted to hammer a soldier and reached for info to use against the soldier
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SSG Jamil Spruill Exactly. If this is for separation, legal and the commander will review it and conclude the SM was never provided the feedback and opportunity to adapt. It will look like the NCO was capricicious in deciding to separate the Soldier.
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If the individual received verbal counselings at the time of the events, and the NCO decided it was time to document the behavior because verbal counseling hasn't had the desired outcome, it is entirely appropriate. It would be wise to note the verbal counseling, rather than give the appearance that the NCO is trying to build a case for some action after having failed to properly counsel and develop the Soldier. It would reflect the poor leadership of that NCO, and was (is) the reason Soldiers who should have received UCMJ or be separated from service didn't receive the deserved negative consequences.
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