Posted on Aug 30, 2020
SPC Kevin West
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I got back to base and formation late. I got NJP'ed for not being in formation without notifying command that I was going to be late during out processing for an injury. So they change my discharge from a Honorable to a General Under Honorable conditions. That was back in 2009, it is 2020 now. Is it possible that I can get that amended based on clemency or any other way? I can't use my GI bill without it being an Honorable discharge.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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So what you really mean is that you took liberty, or a pass for us non Marine folks, WAY outside the liberty limits by several hundred miles and then didn't return till an unspecified amount of time later. I'm curious if you were also reported AWOL.
I agree with everyone else that there is more to this story. Not that I haven't seen commanders in the USMC do petty things like what you've said, you're just only providing the parts of the story that sound favorable to you and paint you in a positive light. For instance, you said you were being separated for a medical injury, but you were not separated by a Med Board or you wouldn't have received a GUH because the commander is not the separation authority for Med Board service members. It's not likely that you were actually outprocessing because who would let someone take a pass while they are clearing?

Too much doesn't add up. Good luck with getting your upgrade.
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Sgt Field Radio Operator
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You have a post from a year ago. If you were a Marine, why is this not in your profile? Instead, you are listed as Army National Guard. Complete your profile and have it verified. You are not telling us all of the details because your story does not add up.

You were AWOL because you were not authorized to go all the way to NYC from North Carolina on liberty (600 miles). All Marines know to notify their leadership if they can not make formation.
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Sgt Bob Anderson
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I am willing to bet he meant UCMJ not USMC.
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SFC Jose Trabal-Vega
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Sgt Bob Anderson it says army, 11b under his name
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GySgt William Hardy
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I agree, a simple phone call would have done the trick unless you were in my situation where I didn't have immediate access to a phone (before cell phone in the late 60s) and was about to board a plane to get back to base. In those days we had liberty cards and my liberty was up at midnight on Sunday. I got back at 0400 and was marked UA for 4 hours. I didn't miss any duty, I was not late for formation. It was just logged in the duty log book that I came in after midnight. The difference was it was a one time thing. I had one CO tear the page out of my records. It was still in my permanent record at HQ USMC, but it was no longer in the records I carried from assignment to assignment.
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1SG Alan Boggs
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I suspect their is more than the one incident. It is highly unlikely that the command gave you a discharge based on that one time for that matter even two or three times.
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MSgt Electrical Power Production
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Agreed.
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1SG Alan Boggs CMSgt Virgil Horsley
I don't even see anything in his profile that suggest he was even in the Corps.
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1SG Alan Boggs
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MSgt (Join to see) yea I'm not sure what the USMC reference was about
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GySgt Michael Roma
GySgt Michael Roma
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his discharge is going to be based on his Pro and Con marks, unless he was discharged immediately after his punishment and subsequently received low Proficiency and conduct marks stemming from that, which is the standard and, it brought his average down low enough where an honorable discharge couldn't be given. On a side note: you reap what you sow
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