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Some say do your 20 others say there is a point requirement. Some say it both.
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MSG Pat Colby
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Points are used when calculating your Pension. More points = more money.
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MAJ Contracting Officer
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Yep, you need a total of 1000 points to retire + 20 good years = 50 points per year * 20 years! Although it would be very difficult to only get 50 points per year and still get 20 good years.
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SFC Ncoic
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Things to Know To retire from AR You need a min. of 20 good years. A Good year is 50 performance points during your Sign up date annul year. A standard year would have 15 points membership, 14 days AT, 48 points for drill weekends, ( 2 pts per day for drill weekends) 15+14+48+ 77 pts. Keep in mind you get one point for every active duty day you do. Schools and such. Retirement is based on total points and years served. You will get a value for each point earned. This number goes up every rank and steps up at, 22,24,26 can not recall if there is a step at 28 years. Now this is fun: A person can NEVER go to an AT and miss three complete drill weekends EVERY year for 20 years and still have 20 good years and retirement. Secret here is to get all the points you can. Correspondence counts but remember you can only get 365 points in one year.
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SMSgt Ang Senior Paralegal Manager For Af Professional Development/Af Jag School (Afjags)
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You need to log into your personnel account and look at your records. If you don't know how - go to your personnel flight and have someone help you with it. You should also be getting a yearly summary showing your points for that year and what your total service is. Many guard members have mixed service - active and reserve - as other stated you need 20 good years to get a full retirement and then you can calculate your pension by using an online calculator - pay grade, years of service, points - it will tell you what your project pay will be when you turn 60.
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CAPT Kevin B.
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It's like "Whose Line is it Anyways". Everything is made up and the points don't matter. So you have to make 20 good years minimum. That is usually a combination of active days, inactive drills, correspondence courses, etc. So the magic number is 50 in your Anniversary Year. Extra points mean more in your monthly direct deposit when you turn 60. BTW NEVER RESIGN once you hit 20 or better. That freezes your benefit at the rate that day. Instead transfer to the Retired Reserve, Fleet Reserve, or equivalents. Yes they can recall you between then and 60 but the odds are very very low and if they do, you'd likely want to do it anyways because it's that bad. Your retired pay will be based on the pay scale at age 60. I wound up with around 5500 points so piling on the points makes a difference.
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CAPT Hiram Patterson
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With 12 years of active time (including 4 deployments) plus another 20 on reserve time my points piled on just like yours. Made a big difference in retired pay than just getting the basic 75 points a year.
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SSG Tim Thornton
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I'm like you Sir, I will have over 5500 points as well at retirement. The other thing you have to remember is it is based on your last 3 years as far as what percentage of what salary you were getting. So just for S & G, if your pay was 1100, 1200, 1250 for the last three years, they are going to go off of 1183.00. Your right about staying on the retired reserve list, that increases those numbers I was just talking about.
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Capt Retired
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Edited 8 y ago
Unless it has changed you need 20 good years. Good years may be why some say point requirement.

Of course full pay and benefits do not start until you reach 60 years of age.

Note: Active duty years do, of course, count.
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SFC(P) Drill Sergeant
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CH (COL) (Join to see) - Thank you sir. Yeah i must agree once again get screwed. Hopefully before i retire maybe it will switch to including all your Active Duty years.
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CH (COL) Command and Unit Chaplain
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Congress' intent was for all contingency time, period, beginning with the change to an operational reserve (Bosnia). However, they neglected to write an effective date into the legislation. Donald Rumsfeld convinced President Bush to establish the date through the use of a signing memorandum which made the date of the signature of the legislation the effective date. It will have cost me personally, over $300,000.00 in retired pay because I was so young. Congress could reverse this through additional legislation or another president could do it through a subsequent executive order.
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LTC Tim Ellis
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CH (COL) (Join to see) - Roger that, my unit was mobilized twice after 9-11 but prior to 2008, so no soup for me.
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CH (COL) Command and Unit Chaplain
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LTC Tim Ellis - I came back 100% total and permanent. It cost me my house and almost my marriage.
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Being in the national guard, what is the point requirement for retirement? I'm sitting at about 1800pts. 11years in.
Maj Marty Hogan
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You need to cover 50 points for the year- attending drill alone generates 48 points and you get 15 points just for being in the Guard. Throw in your 2 weeks a year and you have 78 points. If you have AD time- those points are worth 1 point for every day served on AD. I would ask your unit Finance or Support Squadron for more specific info.

Here is an excellent website and article to explain
http://themilitarywallet.com/guard-reserve-points/
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Maj Marty Hogan
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TSgt William Meyer - [login to see] will send you what I have. I can send you my example with my points and such.
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SFC John Hill
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TSgt William Meyer - You should have been provided with your most recent STATUS OF NOTIFICATION OF ELIGIBILITY FOR RETIRED PAY AT AGE 60 (20 YEAR LETTER). It will state your estimated monthly retired pay at age 60.
See also: NGB 680-2-19 Automated Retirement Points Accounting Management 19 August 2011 http://www.ngbpdc.ngb.army.mil/pubs/680/ngr680_2_19_august_2011.pdf

Retired Pay Calculator https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/reserve/soldiersservice/retirementcalc.aspx
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TSgt William Meyer
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SFC John Hill - Thanks, but I was ANG not NG is there a difference in the publications ?
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SFC John Hill
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TSgt William Meyer - It's a National Guard Bureau publication, it should be applicable. The National Guard Bureau is responsible for the administration of the United States National Guard. It was established by the United States Congress as a joint bureau of the Department of the Army and the Department of the Air Force. The U.S. Military consists of three components; Active Duty, the Reserves, and the National Guard.
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SFC John Hill
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This may help answer your question(s) NGB 680-2-19 Automated Retirement Points Accounting Management 19 August 2011 http://www.ngbpdc.ngb.army.mil/pubs/680/ngr680_2_19_august_2011.pdf

FYI, you will receive a NGB Form-22 for your NG service. A DD Form-214 will only be issued for the time periods you were mobilized/activated under Title 10.
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MAJ Oct Team
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From what I was told you need a minimum of 50 points per year and 20 good years, so that would make the minimum 1,000 points
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Capt Retired
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True, but once could have 1,000 points and not have 20 good years.
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Capt Retired
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For example if one served 3 years active duty that would be 3 X 365 points. But only 3 good years. 17 more would be needed in the Guard.
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SFC John Hill
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Capt (Join to see) - An additional note regarding Active Duty (AD). NG must have their 20 good years (with points). Standard retirement age is 60. After 28 JAN 2008 personnel who served on AD under Title 10 for active duty in support of contingency operations or active service authorized by the President or the Secretary of Defense under Title 32 USC 502(f) for purposes of responding to a national emergency declared by the President or supported by federal funds are eligible for the Reduced Eligibility Age provisions.
Soldiers who meet the criteria are eligible for reduced retirement below 60 years of age by three months for each aggregate of 90 days (the days need not be consecutive days) performed in any fiscal year after 28 January 2008. The eligibility age for reduced retirement age for receipt of retired pay for non-regular service may not be reduced below age 50 for eligible Soldiers.
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Capt Retired
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Thanks for the information. Obviously I was before this time which is why I said I didn't know this.
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LTC Lara DeLancey
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I have worked in Personnel for 28 years, both as a Reservist and a full time civilian, you have to have 20 good years for retirement. A good year is a minimum of 50 points, you get 15 points for membership, one point for each UTA (48 per year), and one point for each day on orders. You can also earn points for additional reserve paid duty and correspondence courses. Whatever you do, never retire until after you receive your 20 year letter, if you are one day short you will not be entitled to retirement pay.
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LTC Curtis Madsen
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You need 9 more good years before your eligible for a retirement. Like mentioned in a previous post, addtional points increase how much retired pay you'll receive.
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MSG Monique Martin
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LTC Curtis Madsen
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I took this picture from the NGAUS magazine I get. Gives you a really good snap shot of what you might make at retirement.
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