Posted on Jan 15, 2021
Army NCO Professional Development Ribbon Numeral for phase 1?
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I went to PLDC, that's how old I am, in 2004 and went to BNCOC Phase 1 in 2007. Does the new regulations still require to finish Phase 1 and 2, sometimes 3 depending on MOS, to get the BNCOC completion for the numeral on your ribbon?
I am not even sure if that was regulation in 2007, but that's what I've always heard before I left the Army.
I am not even sure if that was regulation in 2007, but that's what I've always heard before I left the Army.
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Advanced Leaders Course (ALC formerly BNCOC) Phase 1 Common Core
Ribbons Advanced Leaders Course (ALC formerly BNCOC) Phase 1 Common Core
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In order to wear the ribbon with proper number, you need to complete all phases per the MOS before the number can be changed. If the BNCOC/ALC course has 2 phases, then you put the #2 on after completing the 2nd Phase. I say it that way because AR 600-8-22, 2019 edition, states that in the NOTE section of Table 5-1, that: "1 Once a Soldier has been awarded the NCOPDR upon graduation from the Basic Leaders Course, subsequent appropriate numerals will be awarded to identify completion of higher level NCO Education System."
I believe "System" is the key word there. Otherwise, I can't find anything specific as to needing to complete all phases before the number can be added/changed.
I believe "System" is the key word there. Otherwise, I can't find anything specific as to needing to complete all phases before the number can be added/changed.
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MSgt (Join to see) -
PLDC/WLC/BLC (many name changes)--Awarding of the Ribbon
BNCOC/ALC (all phases complete)--Awarding of #2 device
ANCOC/SLC (all phases complete)--Awarding of #3 device
MLC--Awarding of #4 device.
USASMA--Awarding of #5 device.
Nominative Leader Course--Awarding #6 device. This course is for the Command Sergeants Major (CSM) and Sergeants Major (SGM) for their duties as CSMs for commanders of 1-2 star Army commands, and Staff Section SGMs at HQDA level of responsibilities
PLDC/WLC/BLC (many name changes)--Awarding of the Ribbon
BNCOC/ALC (all phases complete)--Awarding of #2 device
ANCOC/SLC (all phases complete)--Awarding of #3 device
MLC--Awarding of #4 device.
USASMA--Awarding of #5 device.
Nominative Leader Course--Awarding #6 device. This course is for the Command Sergeants Major (CSM) and Sergeants Major (SGM) for their duties as CSMs for commanders of 1-2 star Army commands, and Staff Section SGMs at HQDA level of responsibilities
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MSgt (Join to see) - And that's the rub. It doesn't say specifics, but because the ALC and SLC courses have multiple phases, it stands to reason that one cannot add the correct # device until all phases of the course are complete. Until all phases are complete, then one hasn't fully completed the course.
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MSG (Join to see) Trust but Verify I always say. Thank you for the clarification SFC Livingston
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As long as you completed your NCOES for that grade you have met the requirements for the ribbon. Some MOS's have multiple phases for ALC and others don't.
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Thank you. If I remember correctly 12Bs has 2 phases so I can't wear the Numeral2
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MSgt (Join to see) it's not what it has, it's if you met the requirements for yours at that time. If you received a 1059 with credit that should be it. The first "phase" your thinking of was called common core and it was just an online portion you had to complete before graduating
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