Posted on Oct 26, 2019
Anyone know the answers to these questions about the ACFT?
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As a Reserve Soldier, I only have to have a record test every 12 months.
1. If I take a record next September, am I still good for 12 months with that (older) test?
2. If my rating period is March 1st 2021, and I took a record APFT (old) test in September 2020, will I have to have a record ACFT (new) test within that rating period, or will the old test still count?
3. If the Reserve component is not ready to go by 2021, due to equipment problems, logistics, and other potential concerns I have heard about, will there be an extended trial period?
4. Same situation as above (Question 3): Will the old APFT test still be valid until the component can meet the capability of the ACFT?
Many Reserve (and I assume NG) units have limited staff most of the month and will have to schedule a drill day (or use up an AT day) to conduct the ACFT. But what happens when a school for NCOES requires a passing "diagnostic" test 30 days prior to attending the school? I see that as a logistical nightmare, even when all the equipment is fielded.
1. If I take a record next September, am I still good for 12 months with that (older) test?
2. If my rating period is March 1st 2021, and I took a record APFT (old) test in September 2020, will I have to have a record ACFT (new) test within that rating period, or will the old test still count?
3. If the Reserve component is not ready to go by 2021, due to equipment problems, logistics, and other potential concerns I have heard about, will there be an extended trial period?
4. Same situation as above (Question 3): Will the old APFT test still be valid until the component can meet the capability of the ACFT?
Many Reserve (and I assume NG) units have limited staff most of the month and will have to schedule a drill day (or use up an AT day) to conduct the ACFT. But what happens when a school for NCOES requires a passing "diagnostic" test 30 days prior to attending the school? I see that as a logistical nightmare, even when all the equipment is fielded.
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This fiscal year everyone will still have to take the current PT test for administrative purposes.
The add on is that we will take a diagnostic ACFT.
As of HQDA EXORD 219-18 (FRAGO 7)
3.B.1.M "...RA units and AGR will conduct a diagnostic [ACFT] twice between 01 OCT, 2019 and 30 SEPT, 2020. Reserve and NG will conduct a diagnostic [ACFT] once between 01 OCT, 2019 and 30 SEPT, 2020."
The add on is that we will take a diagnostic ACFT.
As of HQDA EXORD 219-18 (FRAGO 7)
3.B.1.M "...RA units and AGR will conduct a diagnostic [ACFT] twice between 01 OCT, 2019 and 30 SEPT, 2020. Reserve and NG will conduct a diagnostic [ACFT] once between 01 OCT, 2019 and 30 SEPT, 2020."
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The whole thing is ridiculous. I’ve never seen an armory that has room for what is required to administer this test. That means it would have to be one or two central locations that have the equipment to take the test. That means that part-time units are going to have to step all over each other to get it done.
I’m on a TRADOC post right now. We have to PASS the usual 2 APFTs plus an ACFT to pass from what I’ve understood. They’re also certifying all non-IET soldiers on Level 1 and 2. However, they’re not doing anything to train the IET soldiers on how to prepare for or take the test.
My understanding for FY20 is that everyone is supposed to take a diagnostic ACFT. The record PT test will still be the APFT until the start of FY21, which I don’t see being realistic for AR/NG. Especially since there’s at least one weekly change to the ACFT and what is required of those of us that they’ve physically broken.
I’m on a TRADOC post right now. We have to PASS the usual 2 APFTs plus an ACFT to pass from what I’ve understood. They’re also certifying all non-IET soldiers on Level 1 and 2. However, they’re not doing anything to train the IET soldiers on how to prepare for or take the test.
My understanding for FY20 is that everyone is supposed to take a diagnostic ACFT. The record PT test will still be the APFT until the start of FY21, which I don’t see being realistic for AR/NG. Especially since there’s at least one weekly change to the ACFT and what is required of those of us that they’ve physically broken.
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They’re not doing anything to train the non-IET soldiers on how to prepare for or take..*.
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1SG (Join to see) . Now I understand why you answered the way you did. I was off by a year in my question and edited it to the correct dates. So, what I want to know: If a RC Soldier takes a record test September 2020 (which would still be the APFT, since the ACFT is still in the trial period), will that test still be good for a year, or will the Soldier have to take a record ACFT in 2021 when the unit holds it?
Let's say a Soldier passes a record APFT (old test) in September 2020, then in October 2020 (new fiscal year) the Unit decides to administer a Record ACFT (new test). Can the Soldier theoretically opt out of that record test because the APFT taken in September would still be valid?
Let's say a Soldier passes a record APFT (old test) in September 2020, then in October 2020 (new fiscal year) the Unit decides to administer a Record ACFT (new test). Can the Soldier theoretically opt out of that record test because the APFT taken in September would still be valid?
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This article sums up the negatives of the ACFT. We have a HUGE personnel 'end strength' issue in all components of the Army and the ACFT will multiply our sorrow greatly: https://news.clearancejobs.com/2019/10/05/army-combat-fitness-test-fiasco-slides-reveal-84-of-women-failing-acft/
Army Combat Fitness Test Fiasco! Slides Reveal 84% of Women Failing ACFT - ClearanceJobs
The Army Combat Fitness Test was always a bad idea. But raw numbers leaked this week reveal that the ACFT will be a career killer for women soldiers.
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