Posted on May 23, 2015
A 'Band of Sisters' on the Special Ops Battlefield. Your thoughts?
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Even before women were allowed in combat roles, a group of female soldiers gained crucial information for special operations units.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/23/opinions/lemmon-band-of-sisters-special-ops/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/23/opinions/lemmon-band-of-sisters-special-ops/index.html
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I think this is great. Women should absolutely be utilized strategically, especially in situations where they can accomplish something men can't. Like it or not, gender roles exist and will continue to exist. If someone wanted to exploit the fact that I'm decent(ish)-looking woman in my mid twenties for an undercover mission....military, FBI, ICE, or otherwise....I'd jump at the chance!
As far as women on the front lines....if they want to do it and they prove they have what it takes, what's the big deal?
As far as women on the front lines....if they want to do it and they prove they have what it takes, what's the big deal?
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Sgt Sasha Cruz
PO2 Alana Nielson , we can be princesses together. lol. CPT (Join to see) can be the knight or bodygard. If he can handle such a hard task. Ranger Up! LOL
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1LT William Clardy
Jeez, CPT (Join to see), you said you need more females and now you've got a pair of princesses Rangering up in your corner.
I need to put a request in through your supply sergeant for a new job...
I need to put a request in through your supply sergeant for a new job...
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I am all in. We all serve and if it is conducive to the mission and the results are positive. Great job.
The story is coming out Reese Witherspoon is going to star in Ashley ' War. A book I am looking forward to reading as well.
http://outsidethewire.armytimes.com/2015/03/17/report-reese-witherspoon-to-produce-ashleys-war-story-of-fallen-1lt/
The story is coming out Reese Witherspoon is going to star in Ashley ' War. A book I am looking forward to reading as well.
http://outsidethewire.armytimes.com/2015/03/17/report-reese-witherspoon-to-produce-ashleys-war-story-of-fallen-1lt/
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I want the right person for the job. Mission accomplishment is first and foremost. Period. GET IT DONE! I could care less who pulls it off, but GET IT DONE!
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SFC Mark Merino. But what do you do when the nature of the mission to be accomplished, the available tools, the opposition, and the environment changes? We're not Marines after all . . . we can adapt & overcome without perseverating in the minimal knowledge, skills, and abilities used in the used from the beginning of time. Warmest Regards, Sandy
SFC Mark Merino
It seems like the Marines have figured out how to pull it off. Whatever they are doing yields results. Always has, and always will.
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SFC Mark Merino Can you explain what were the results that were yielded in Afghan? I just haven't see them yet.
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Sensational story, GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad. Tragic ending, but she was needed and heeded the call. Requiescat in pace.
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Recently the lines of non combat and combat roles have been very blurred for women. They have been doing an outstanding job in not so defined conditions.
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MSgt (Join to see). In my opinion . . . not so recently . . . women have stayed to care for wounded in harms way in WWII . . . many were captured and treated beastly by the enemy . . . not to mention women intelligence, partisan organization, and field operations agents . . . throughout much of our military history. Thanks for bringing this long term trend to forefront. Warmest Regards, Sandy
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1LT Sandy Annala
I should have said the lines have always been blurred for women not just recently. In my opinion these women have served honorably and without complaint of the duty or sacrifices. My hats off to all of you. God Bless! And thank you!
I should have said the lines have always been blurred for women not just recently. In my opinion these women have served honorably and without complaint of the duty or sacrifices. My hats off to all of you. God Bless! And thank you!
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Amazing...I definitely feel a sense of pride while considering Ashley's service and sacrifice.
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I watched this and I really didn't agree on the take of this. 2LT Ashley White was a member of the North Carolina Army National Guard, just as I am. She bore the same patch as I do as she was with the 30th ABCT. She volunteered to do a great service for her country and paid the ultimate price. She is a hero.
What I am objecting to is that I feel that she is being used for something other then what is going on. The Cultural Engagement Teams are not a Special Operations Force. They are an attachment that has been usually used to help the women in Afghan. They received great training and pulled their weight but it just seems to me that they are being posed as something other than what they are. They were there to fulfill a unique mission. It almost seems to be they portrayed as a stand alone force or there were there as operators. We do the same thing with HUMIT and Civil Affairs. I wouldn't call them operators by any means. Are they in the Special Operations community, yes. But that is only part of the story.
This just seems like another political piece to me. They did a job that no man could do. They were great at it. I am sure they accomplished a lot while they were there. From what I know about the CETs this piece really don't portray them in the same light. Maybe it is just me. She was a great National Guard Soldier but that wasn't even mentioned about her. I guess it didn't help out the story. I think this story did better to really portray her.
What I am objecting to is that I feel that she is being used for something other then what is going on. The Cultural Engagement Teams are not a Special Operations Force. They are an attachment that has been usually used to help the women in Afghan. They received great training and pulled their weight but it just seems to me that they are being posed as something other than what they are. They were there to fulfill a unique mission. It almost seems to be they portrayed as a stand alone force or there were there as operators. We do the same thing with HUMIT and Civil Affairs. I wouldn't call them operators by any means. Are they in the Special Operations community, yes. But that is only part of the story.
This just seems like another political piece to me. They did a job that no man could do. They were great at it. I am sure they accomplished a lot while they were there. From what I know about the CETs this piece really don't portray them in the same light. Maybe it is just me. She was a great National Guard Soldier but that wasn't even mentioned about her. I guess it didn't help out the story. I think this story did better to really portray her.
NC National Guard soldiers honor fallen comrade with memorial
Family, friends and fellow soldiers from the 230th Brigade Support Battalion, 30th Armored Brigade Combat Team, North Carolina National Guard, gathered to remember 1st Lt. Ashley White-Stumpf during the unveiling ceremony of the fallen soldier memorial dedicated in her honor at the Goldsboro National Guard Armory here, Sept. 15. 2013.
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SFC Mark Merino I wish they would have focused more on her than just women in combat. It just makes it feel less personal. She was in the same BCT that I am in right now. There wasn't any mention of her being in the National Guard. Just a brief mention the call went out the National Guard. I think they are trumping who a National Guard soldier answered the unique call with women should be in Special Operations.
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When we sign the contracts to join the military, it needs to state very publically, that everything is open to everybody, but you are all expected to perform the same tasks. If you wash out in training, we will find a job for you, and you may not like it. These jobs are considered the most challenging.....these jobs are not as hard..........these jobs are considered to be the least physically challenging, but mentally exhausting..........these jobs are considered to be doable by anyone who makes it out of basic/boot. THAT is true equality.
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SFC Mark Merino. Yes . . . but old standards developed in another time and place under different strategic and tactical situation . . . are not necessarily the standards to apply to an entirely different force operating in an entirely different environment today. Sometimes we change doctrine, strategy, and tactics to fit the rapidly evolving tools, technologies, opposition, and conditions in the field . . . or we disappear from the face of the earth . . . just like any other neanderthals. Warmest Regards, Sandy
Just watched this on CNN. This Book and the Movie are definitely getting added to my Library.
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I think it's great, but....
All women aren't combat unit material. I think that any female being chosen to be "assigned" in a combat arms should be carefully selected to be apart of such an elite group. Women have always been "attached" and will continue to do do. My concern of being "assigned" is the disruption of cohesion that exists amongst the band of brothers.
All women aren't combat unit material. I think that any female being chosen to be "assigned" in a combat arms should be carefully selected to be apart of such an elite group. Women have always been "attached" and will continue to do do. My concern of being "assigned" is the disruption of cohesion that exists amongst the band of brothers.
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