Posted on Sep 17, 2015
How do you balance time off for training in the NG / Reserves?
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In the past few months I've been volunteering for more training opportunities (1-2 days) here & to benefit my career in the Army (UMO Training, Running Ranges, BFT Training, Convoy Ops ect) . Just to set the stage for you all: I work a full-time job at a reputable company (MITRE CORPORATION) who works very closely with AD / Reserve components from all Branches. However there are few people here in the organization that are current SM in the Reserve or Guard.
A family member who has worked here for 35+ years mentioned to me that they thought I was taking too much time off. Of course they mentioned this after I gave advance notice that I would be absent from work for 4 months to go to BOLC in April!
Does anyone have any advice on the work / reserve / life balance that they had to achieve while they were / are in? My family members point runs along the same "Perception is reality" thought; that many & most people are not exposed to SM of the R / NG in the workplace & that they may just think that I'm taking too much time off or that my priorities are mixed up.
Thoughts?
A family member who has worked here for 35+ years mentioned to me that they thought I was taking too much time off. Of course they mentioned this after I gave advance notice that I would be absent from work for 4 months to go to BOLC in April!
Does anyone have any advice on the work / reserve / life balance that they had to achieve while they were / are in? My family members point runs along the same "Perception is reality" thought; that many & most people are not exposed to SM of the R / NG in the workplace & that they may just think that I'm taking too much time off or that my priorities are mixed up.
Thoughts?
Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
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Although I don't know your work climate, I would say your family is correct. Just because you can legally take off the time you need for the military doesn't mean you should. Regardless of who chimes in after me, employers take Guardsmen and Reservist for employment with a high risk because of what you are mentioning. They probably don't want to hear your excitement about going either. Employers can easily find out if you volunteer constantly or are voluntold. Sure they get a tax incentive, so what? Just wait till you start getting tagged for training here and there that you don't want to go to. It all adds up. Now, if you fancy a HOOAH OER once a year go for it.
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What would you tell a Soldier in your PLT?
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It all boils down to your relationship with your employer, and maintaining that. You need to ensure you give them maximum notice of your schedule so they can plan for it. If you keep them up to speed, and give them notice as soon as you know dates, they'll probably have no problem working with you. You need to maintain awareness of your supervisors' impressions, and temper your time on orders if they start to get frustrated with you. Remember, you employer does not have to give you additional time off for "voluntary" schools/orders.
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LTC (Join to see) - BOLC is definitely not voluntary!! But I get your point though about taking additional time off for Military Training, I've used my vacation time when I've got out to attend additional training events.
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1LT (Join to see) - Then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. And I wasn't referring to BOLC when I was talking about the voluntary stuff. I've been there. When I was an LT I spent almost as much time at additional ATs, and voluntary schools, as I did at my civilian job. I was lucky and had a very supportive employer.
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MAJ (Join to see)
I agree with the major you have to keep the lines of communication open and give your employer the maximum amount of lead time. Some far more willing than others it kinda depends on your job and career field.
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It all depends on what you want out of all this and what is most important to you. If your current civilian job is a long term goal on your list then consideration needs to be taken to ensure you grow in it accordingly. Yes, the perception is reality is very true in the civilian workplace, aside from all the legalities, you are perceived as unreliable and inconsistent, they might not be able to legally fire you but good luck on their consideration of you. If you really care about both careers then communication with your civilian supervisor is key and ensure he knows it's not just time off but actual training and work you are doing. The more they understand your service the more supportive they are. I personally had to deal with this in the past 4 years when I was given two commands back to back as an Mday and trying to finish law school, study for the bar and ensure my civilian employer kept faith in me while I was gone for all these sudden Commander emergencies. Since my employer was so considerate of my absence I ensured I came in on my weekends to make up all the work I was unable to do. I did not have much time off between both my careers but manage to fulfill both responsibilities and continue to grow in the military and legal field.
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Thanks for the words of wisdom Ma'am. As of this post I scheduled time to sit down with both my immediate supervisor & their manager so that I could just simply keep them in the loop. After both discussions I found that timely communication with my employer & putting in the extra effort to make up lost opportunities at work is going to be the key to success.
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MAJ (Join to see)
Yes definitely a good move. Remember that we are above all an organization of personal relationships. You will be a better officer because of all this work you are putting in. Stay the course!
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It's always going to be a balancing act! If you enjoy your civilian career and aspire to go further treat it like you do your Army career. Forward plan and set goals, and make sure you communicate with your supervisors that you have those desires. I left a rewarding but stressful job in the mental health field for a federal job. I absolutely love my job now in the respect I give them orders I leave come back and the show goes on. Unfortunately it isn't very rewarding. My take on the Army has always been "do it while I'm young!" I have enjoyed taking on the extra opportunities as an LT regardless if it was a school I might not of had a ton of desire to go to or multiple rotations at NTC. All great learning experiences! If you really enjoy what your doing now there's going to have to be some give and take between careers.
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