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Here is an interesting Forbes article on the merits of vocational training in high school as opposed to the college prep education. What are your thoughts?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholaswyman/2015/09/01/why-we-desperately-need-to-bring-back-vocational-training-in-schools/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholaswyman/2015/09/01/why-we-desperately-need-to-bring-back-vocational-training-in-schools/
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Yes LTC (Join to see) the USA should increase the use of vocational training and their should be efforts to remove any stigma associated with VO Tech.
There are significant numbers of underemployed and unemployed college graduate and there are shortages in many of the technical trades - our nation could use many more skilled carpenters, electricians, mechanics, plumbers, steel and other metal workers, etc.
Some people are very gifted at working with their hands. It will be great if they are allowed and encouraged to get vocational training and experience.
There are significant numbers of underemployed and unemployed college graduate and there are shortages in many of the technical trades - our nation could use many more skilled carpenters, electricians, mechanics, plumbers, steel and other metal workers, etc.
Some people are very gifted at working with their hands. It will be great if they are allowed and encouraged to get vocational training and experience.
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Yes....yes.....yes....yes.....not everyone needs a degree.
To be honest IMO unless you are a professional (Dr/Lawyer, Nurse, Teacher, etc).....you should not require anything beyond High School or Vocational School....we, as a country, have lost our minds when it comes to secondary education....you should not need a degree an accounting degree to be a cashier......and there should be no such thing as a Mixology Degree......or a course in how to speak Klingon being offered at any university.
If we ever want to be great again we need to understand that you don't need a degree to perform labor based jobs......why this ever started is beyond me.
To be honest IMO unless you are a professional (Dr/Lawyer, Nurse, Teacher, etc).....you should not require anything beyond High School or Vocational School....we, as a country, have lost our minds when it comes to secondary education....you should not need a degree an accounting degree to be a cashier......and there should be no such thing as a Mixology Degree......or a course in how to speak Klingon being offered at any university.
If we ever want to be great again we need to understand that you don't need a degree to perform labor based jobs......why this ever started is beyond me.
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LTC Stephen F. I agree with you. There is nothing wrong with being a skilled technician and IMO you don't need to go to college to get those skills. From personal experience, I'll take a computer tech with out a degree any day. I've see too many with graduate degrees that don't know which end of the cable to plug into the wall.
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Yes. Many people can't afford to go to college. This would allow them to graduate with training and experience in a trade, ready to enter the work force.
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LCpl Dan McTiernan
The key is ready to enter or re-enter the work force in your comment. Education does not always prepare individuals to get a job. Colleges and universities have many bone head classed designed to bring students up to the collegiate level. Many unions have training programs to bring new members up to speed, apprentice, journeyman to mechanic. VO would give many a step up in the job market. Look at vocational schools like DeVry which are successful in teaching specific vocational skills.
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At the risk of offending some I think that Forbes is right. Many, if not most, people have no business in college and are simply wasting time and money. In the last few decades we have promoted the idea that everyone should go to college. While doing so we have dumbed down colleges and universities and created a bunch of totally useless degree programs that do nothing by leave students deep in debt for no real benefit. Many who do actually graduate will never use their degree and will end up in a low paying dead end job anyway. Instead of getting a useless degree and flipping burgers most would be much better off with vocational training which prepares them for a job that actually does pay well. If anyone has doubts they should check what plumbers, electricians and welders usually make and compare it to someone with a degree in basically nothing. A side benefit is that the craftsman doesn't owe thousands in student loans before he even starts working.
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I agree. Lots of kids go to school picking degree programs that they think will make them lots of money as soon as they graduate. Some can't stand the work they do because they don't like the responsibilities of that career path or the starting salaries or end up in a position that has nothing to do with their degree. VO training gives them an opportunity to try out a few occupations to see if they even like doing that type of work. Of the 4 high schools I went to, there were several programs, from construction to office education. My son didn't have any of those in his high school. His children will have even less choices since social sciences seem to be over-shadowing those choices.
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