Posted on Apr 1, 2014
I have just received my Change of Rater before I PCS in a month. I never received an initial, or quarterly counseling and I got a 1/2.
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Should I make a big deal about this or is it even worth the time? Im just irritated that there is a standard that needed to be met and it wasnt. Please help
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This is a sure sign of piss poor leadership and they who ever they are need to be removed from that position. I deployed and and not with any unit my NCOER was written by people I didn't even know. The SGM was to lazy to write who I worked for. I passed it up my chain of command and it went know where. The leadership involved all should have be removed and a letter of reprimand placed in their file as at permanent record. They should never be allowed to hold a leadership position again. The Army is afraid to do that because it could hurt someones feelings. To damn bad. Lead or get the hell out of the way.
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It is your responsibility to ask for your initial and quarterly counselings. Yes, I know your rater should be doing it. Some NCOs are just flat out lazy. Just remember that your career is in your hands. In my eyes, if you aren't being counseled it's your fault. Ensure your NCOs are doing their jobs; initial 30 days and quarterly 90 days. If you really feel that you are the "Cream of the Crop 1/1" then fight for it. Never settle for less if you have the proof and fire power to back up your argument.
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SFC Christopher Walker, MAOM, DSL
I'm saying it like that. I mean an NCO should ensure they are being counseled. If not, use the chain of command to ensure it does happen. At the end of the day, if an individual walks around without being counseled, it's their fault for not doing something about it.
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Goknh through the same crap. My senior rater is a commander yhat left and a XO who are gone. No quarterlys; NCOER was due April it's almost August. Being also told no PCS award done i have been a known loss since late January when i had PCS orders and did my support form to begin process.
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Honestly, you're a SGT, it doesn't really matter.
By the time you make it to the SFC Board, there will be 4-5 NCOER's as a SSG for the board to review. Unless you recieved a 4/5 or something horrible, they don't care what you did as a SGT. Look at your SGT time as an officer has their butter bar time. It's time for you to learn by making mistakes, charging ahead too hard, and completely screwing up situations you have never encountered before.
This is one of those mistakes. Now you know to write your own NCOER, with experience and good mentors you'll learn how to write them well.
Also, a 1/2 is a great NCOER. What really matters is those Senior Rater bullets and how well supported your other bullets are. One trend I have seen a lot in combat arms is to just drop bullets in there and give arbitrary numbers. Board members can read the bullets and determine on their own if the guy is really the cream of the crop, or if his rater was just lazy.
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