Posted on Aug 7, 2015
Cop confrontation goes viral. What is your reaction to this video?
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The Mayor and City Manager in Rohnert Park, California say they are investigating an incident where an unidentified officer drew his gun on a man recording him.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cop-confrontation-goes-viral/vi-BBludH6
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My constitutional rights be damned. When a cop tells me to pull my hand out of my pocket to make sure I don't have a weapon I say OK. Then I would continue to hook up my boat and would talk to him like a human and ask if there were reports f someone stealing a boat, something called in in the neighborhood, whatever. Cops have a hard ass job and should be able to ask to see ANYONE's hands if they approach them. How many cops need to get shot before they are allowed to be concerned for their own saftey? If they want to abuse their powers you can take them to the prosecuter, sue the city, whatever....
Have some fun while they are patting you down if they are truly overstepping their bounds. Tell him you love the smell of his cologne as he is patting you down and tell him to take extra long checking for a weapon in your waistband. Find out what time he gets off shift, invite him back to your place for a bottle of red wine and a leather ball gag and ask him to bring his handcuffs. Ask him when he searches your tush if he will call you 'Prince Valiant' or 'Buck Naked'. Ask him if his gun has ever gone off before he wanted it to. The list is endless, just try to turn that frown upside down.
Do I think the cop had little package syndrome? Certainly. But Ill be the bigger man and comply with his orders at the time and will put his mind at ease that I'm not trying to blow him away. I love cops and I've had some run ins with some total wads. Just like anyone else in society. Some people are awesome, the VAST majority are....eh, and you will always have inbred swine with little brains and a big mouth. Bring those guys to the attention of their supervisors and the prosecuter. Don't generalize cops as Massengill products. You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in today's climate.
Have some fun while they are patting you down if they are truly overstepping their bounds. Tell him you love the smell of his cologne as he is patting you down and tell him to take extra long checking for a weapon in your waistband. Find out what time he gets off shift, invite him back to your place for a bottle of red wine and a leather ball gag and ask him to bring his handcuffs. Ask him when he searches your tush if he will call you 'Prince Valiant' or 'Buck Naked'. Ask him if his gun has ever gone off before he wanted it to. The list is endless, just try to turn that frown upside down.
Do I think the cop had little package syndrome? Certainly. But Ill be the bigger man and comply with his orders at the time and will put his mind at ease that I'm not trying to blow him away. I love cops and I've had some run ins with some total wads. Just like anyone else in society. Some people are awesome, the VAST majority are....eh, and you will always have inbred swine with little brains and a big mouth. Bring those guys to the attention of their supervisors and the prosecuter. Don't generalize cops as Massengill products. You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in today's climate.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
MCPO Roger Collins - I don't think all cops are bad guys. I'm very pro law enforcement. But I call out back police work when I see it.
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MCPO Roger Collins
Cpl Mark McMiller - Same here. A good example is the cop in SC. Totally wrong regardless of what led to shooting the guy in the back. But I will give the benefit of doubt to law enforcement until proven otherwise.
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SGT William Howell
Cpl Mark McMiller If I walk up on you and you start screaming like a crazy person and jab your hand into your pocket you bet your ass I am going to draw. It is obvious that your total lack of respect for police officers is going to cause issues down the road if they have not already.
There are police officers that are not what they should be, just as there are bad doctors, politicians, and military personnel that we have all worked with. They are not the majority. You don't know me you have no clue as to my abilities as a police officer, just like I have no understanding to your abilities as a Marine. I could make assumptions based off your rant, yet they still would not effect how I thought about the Corps as a whole.
There are police officers that are not what they should be, just as there are bad doctors, politicians, and military personnel that we have all worked with. They are not the majority. You don't know me you have no clue as to my abilities as a police officer, just like I have no understanding to your abilities as a Marine. I could make assumptions based off your rant, yet they still would not effect how I thought about the Corps as a whole.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
SGT William Howell See here's the problem. Let me see if I can break this down so that maybe you will understand it. The cop had no business approaching the guy at all in the first place because, as the cop admitted, the cop didn't suspect the guy of any wrongdoing. And since the cop had no business approaching the guy because he didn't suspect him of any wrongdoing, the cop had no reason to be in fear for his safety. And since the cop had no reason to be in fear for his safety because he didn't suspect the guy of any wrongdoing, he had no legitimate reason to draw his weapon on the guy. And that is why the guy responded in the, rightfully so, manner in which he did.
I have a lot of respect for LEO's in general; in fact, I'm very supportive of law enforcement; I work with them on a daily basis. But like most people, I don't have a lot of respect for LEO's who are clearly behaving wrong and those LEO's who go to ridiculous degrees to defend that behavior. In my mind, when a LEO defends the bad behavior of another LEO, the defending LEO is just as bad. And a LEO might be behaving badly because he needs more training or got some bad training somewhere during his career; but he's not going to learn from his mistake when other LEO's are defending the bad behavior. What LEO's should understand -- and I believe the good ones do -- is that we, as citizens, are not at the beck and call of law enforcement. We have the right to go about our lives unmolested by LEO's when we are clearly doing nothing unlawful.
One thing you are right about; we don't know each other. My opinion of you is based on what you say on this forum just as your opinion is of me. And ranks before names are deceiving; I got out of the Marines in 1984; since then I've had a long and successful life, a lot of it working for attorneys. You will never see me defending anyone when I think they are clearly wrong. If you watch long enough, I'm sure you will see me defend LEO's when I think they are right.
I have a lot of respect for LEO's in general; in fact, I'm very supportive of law enforcement; I work with them on a daily basis. But like most people, I don't have a lot of respect for LEO's who are clearly behaving wrong and those LEO's who go to ridiculous degrees to defend that behavior. In my mind, when a LEO defends the bad behavior of another LEO, the defending LEO is just as bad. And a LEO might be behaving badly because he needs more training or got some bad training somewhere during his career; but he's not going to learn from his mistake when other LEO's are defending the bad behavior. What LEO's should understand -- and I believe the good ones do -- is that we, as citizens, are not at the beck and call of law enforcement. We have the right to go about our lives unmolested by LEO's when we are clearly doing nothing unlawful.
One thing you are right about; we don't know each other. My opinion of you is based on what you say on this forum just as your opinion is of me. And ranks before names are deceiving; I got out of the Marines in 1984; since then I've had a long and successful life, a lot of it working for attorneys. You will never see me defending anyone when I think they are clearly wrong. If you watch long enough, I'm sure you will see me defend LEO's when I think they are right.
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SPC Americo Garcia
It is but to pull that kind of crap on a person without talking to him is just wrong. Officer could of asked questions if he felt there was a wrong. little man syndrome at it's best. Even possible corruption of this department. We need honest people not just some gun ho fucks. sorry for my language I would of done the same as the guy behind the camera.
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The little guy seemed to feel much bigger behind the gun & badge.....I dont understand why the Officer exited his vehicle to start with unless there was a call in the area and perhaps the guy behind the video camera matched the description???
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
I'm with you CSM Michael J. Uhlig --- it certainly seems like the officer was out of line to me.
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