Posted on Jul 31, 2015
COL Charles Williams
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Interesting. What do you think?

Germany–Although top military leaders have testified before Congress that Russia has become the most serious threat to U.S. national security, the U.S. Army in Europe is trying to confront a renewed threat from Russia with a force that is a fraction of its Cold War size.

A team of retired Army officers serving on the National Commission on the Future of the Army visited Wiesbaden and other American bases in Europe this week, looking at the question about how many forces are needed.

There are some 30,000 troops in Europe today, and just two Army Brigades permanently stationed in Europe. During the Cold War there were some 300,000 troops.

How to find more troops to respond to potential conflict with Russia or to participate in military exercises designed to deter military aggression by Moscow is a key challenge for the Army.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/30/debate-how-many-american-troops-are-needed-in-europe/
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Personally, I'd like to see NATO and the EU stand up their own forces without us. We are enriching countries like Germany by providing their defense.

The punishment from WWII has gone on long enough...
CSM James Winslow
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Is the Question "How many troops in Europe" or "How many troops in Germany?" Part of the reason we are here in the first place is to stop the Inter-European Nationalist wars of conquest that have been happening here all throughout the 16th through the 20th centuries (the last two of which required our involvement to stop). The former Warsaw pact nations are making a lot of noise about wanting US Soldiers based in their countries, either on a rotational basis or as a permanent fixture. I can understand the advantage of rotational troops falling in on prepositioned equipment as a political solution- If the US-Russia political situation worsens, we use "stopping the rotations" as a bargaining chip. This is using the Army as a political pawn in a game of diplomacy, and is about the most useless way of deterring aggression I can think of. No one is fooled by this, but we spend the money and move the troops nonetheless. The way to deter aggression in Europe is by having a National interest of some kind- Populace, resources or Markets- and putting a large, well trained group of Soldiers guarding it and trained to defend it. Like in the Cold War (which we won, BTW). Having Soldiers in Germany at the present historical point is useless, unless they are here to defend the logistics base of the American war fighting capacity in Europe. We need to analyze the entire Russian Border with Europe and come up with some form of stationing plan that covers the entire border (not just protecting each countries' national interests, but those of Europe as a whole), then preposition the equipment and develop a forward basing plan for each division and corps HQs we assign to defend the "European Continent". This of course, also needs to be ratified by the European countries involved (which will never happen). In other words, we need to do it right, or stay home.
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Maj Chris Nelson
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I think that the strategy to deal with the issue will be the determining factor. During the cold war, the primary reason we had that many troops there was to slow down the advance of the Eastern Block until back up could arrive from the states. In today's military, we can mobilize many troops in fairly short time frames. Also, we have better stand off weapons systems that can arrive on scene in short order (ICBM with or without nuclear payload, bombers, fighters, etc. that can arrive within hours of need. Not sure 30k would be enough, but not sure we need 300k either.
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MAJ Chris Nelson, the U.S.' pre-positioned war stocks in Europe are, for the most part, no longer there. Those equipment sets were (and will be) essential to timely U.S. mobilization and response times.
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We'll need to include the mobility requirement in that analysis. The movement is constrained by our assets being available, and we just don't quite have the numbers of aircrew and aircraft available as in the past. That should be a key factor in any basing recommendation the team may come up with.
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