Posted on Jul 22, 2015
Guantanamo Bay: Closure plan in 'final stages' - Is this a good thing?
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Guantanamo Bay: Closure plan in 'final stages' - Is this a good thing or will we have to open this up back again someday? The US has rejected in giving back the property to the Cuban Government at this point. Should we continue to hold our ground?
Your thoughts and comments from a strategic standpoint RP Members?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33626398
Your thoughts and comments from a strategic standpoint RP Members?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33626398
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
Terrorism
International Affairs
Foreign Policy
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I hate the misdirection in the media, wether or not they decommission the JTF here or not (which I don't see happening any time soon) GTMO will remain open.
It has been a Naval station for roughly 100 years and is a strategic refueling port for ships and a major hub for CG Cutters that patrol the Caribbean.
It has been a Naval station for roughly 100 years and is a strategic refueling port for ships and a major hub for CG Cutters that patrol the Caribbean.
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The fact they are not going to give the ground back is an indication there are other things at work here. It will be interesting to see what happens if the prison is not closed by the time President Obama leaves office, not sure that any other administration will have the same outlook on it. Regardless of the detest many Americans have for the prison, it housed some of the most dangerous people in the world that wished every American harm. I think many Americans forget the events that lead up to its creation and the capture of so many terrorists.
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Ignoring the "closing" issue, but focusing on the underlying Prisoner issue which is the real concern.
The fact that we are using a base on what is essentially "foreign soil" to bypass the requirement to provide Due Process to "Prisoners of War" or "Detainees" or whatever the hell the buzzword of the day is bothers the hell out of me.
I get that these guys are dangerous. I get that these guys mean us harm. But that doesn't mean we get to bypass the "Spirit" or "Intent" of the Constitution for the sake of convenience.
And yes, I know the American People don't want them here either. I know no other country wants them. But, when you make a decision to "Arrest" or "Detain" or "whatever" these yahoos, you take on an obligation to deal with the consequences, and you do so using our rules, not trying to create some sleazy legalize backdoor way around it.
"We're not really breaking the rules" is just a fancy way of saying "We're breaking the rules."
The fact that we are using a base on what is essentially "foreign soil" to bypass the requirement to provide Due Process to "Prisoners of War" or "Detainees" or whatever the hell the buzzword of the day is bothers the hell out of me.
I get that these guys are dangerous. I get that these guys mean us harm. But that doesn't mean we get to bypass the "Spirit" or "Intent" of the Constitution for the sake of convenience.
And yes, I know the American People don't want them here either. I know no other country wants them. But, when you make a decision to "Arrest" or "Detain" or "whatever" these yahoos, you take on an obligation to deal with the consequences, and you do so using our rules, not trying to create some sleazy legalize backdoor way around it.
"We're not really breaking the rules" is just a fancy way of saying "We're breaking the rules."
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Cpl Jeff N.
These folks are not American Citizens. They are enemy combatants. They need no trial to remain there. They can be released at the end of the conflict once their leaders have laid down arms. We captured Nazi's and Japanese during WWII and held them with no trial to the end of the conflict. Some were tried for war crimes at the end. Most were released to go home.
The should not be in American prisons either. They are not common criminals although they may be war criminals. How many trials of any of these folks have happened during this administration to either clear them or keep locked up? I think the answer is zero. He has traded more than he has tried.
Leave them there, let them rot. They will kill again as much as they can.
The should not be in American prisons either. They are not common criminals although they may be war criminals. How many trials of any of these folks have happened during this administration to either clear them or keep locked up? I think the answer is zero. He has traded more than he has tried.
Leave them there, let them rot. They will kill again as much as they can.
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