Posted on Jul 13, 2015
Can someone help me with an Article 91 question and provide some clarification?
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I'm a newly promoted SGT and I'm aware of what Article 91 says.. While on duty and in uniform around others I have no issues with soldiers . I'm generally liked and respected. But being that all these guys knew me as A SPC (P) just last month, I've came along situations where I have maybe made a correction in our tent (have not yet been moved to a NCO tent) and been disrespected while off duty and we are both out of uniform. Nothing horrible but still things I've herd said that they don't know I've overheard.. For example being referred to as "guy" in the disrespectful comment or a disrespectful joke said. May be a dumb question but is this something I should verbally council these guys on being that we are off duty and out of uniform? Still adjusting to my new position.
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You're in a tough spot. You are no longer among "peers" (Non-NCOs) however you are inside "their world" (the Tent).
The reason there is separate tents is so BOTH Non-NCOs and NCOs can relax and unwind away from each other. Your presence there "creates" tension in a fashion. They can't be themselves anymore, because the SGT is there, and you can't be yourself around the Troops, because you have to be the example.
So, you've got a few choices, and none of them are real winners. You can be the real hard ass. But keep in mind, you're in THEIR house. Sure, you aren't trying to make friends, but this won't win you respect either. You can ignore it... but then you might be seen as a pushover. A third option is Avoid the Place. Find somewhere else to bide your time until you move into the NCO tent, and just come in for actual rack time.
Any "flagrant" displays of disrespect, pull the offender off to the side (on the first one) "Let's go for a walk Specialist Snuffy", and light him up. Let him know it won't be tolerated, but you'd like to keep as cordial a "living arrangement" as possible, because "no one wants things to get ugly."
The reason there is separate tents is so BOTH Non-NCOs and NCOs can relax and unwind away from each other. Your presence there "creates" tension in a fashion. They can't be themselves anymore, because the SGT is there, and you can't be yourself around the Troops, because you have to be the example.
So, you've got a few choices, and none of them are real winners. You can be the real hard ass. But keep in mind, you're in THEIR house. Sure, you aren't trying to make friends, but this won't win you respect either. You can ignore it... but then you might be seen as a pushover. A third option is Avoid the Place. Find somewhere else to bide your time until you move into the NCO tent, and just come in for actual rack time.
Any "flagrant" displays of disrespect, pull the offender off to the side (on the first one) "Let's go for a walk Specialist Snuffy", and light him up. Let him know it won't be tolerated, but you'd like to keep as cordial a "living arrangement" as possible, because "no one wants things to get ugly."
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SGT Matthew Ellis
Well put. That actually reminded me of similar situations I encountered as a joe. It wasn't a result of promotion, but there was occasionally an instance where 1-2 NCOs got stuck in a tent with the rest of us because there was no more room in the original NCO tent. Their solution was to spend all their free time in the NCO tent hanging out with the other NCOs. I noticed it because the only time we ever saw any of them outside of work/training/whatever was when they were going to sleep or running in to grab something.
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Yes, you need to counsel them IN WRITING. Even if this is happening during off duty time and out of uniform, you all are still on Army time. Regardless of living situations.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
This may be escalating too hard. Verbal & document (date/time), absolutely. But this is one of the "handle at the lowest level possible" and learning curve issues every young leader has to go through.
Now, if he can't resolve it without paperwork, definitely escalate up.
Now, if he can't resolve it without paperwork, definitely escalate up.
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Make sure your SSG is aware of it and get their feedback and ensure they understand then you can push for a transfer to the NCO tent. You should expect some poor attitudes primarily due to jealousy but don't allow it to escalate to blatant disrespect, if it gets to that point it is beyond your ability to fix. (as they don't care what you say or do anywhat hence the blatant disrespect) Push for a transfer and earn respect from your superior NCO's.
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