Posted on Feb 2, 2023
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Baralyme & Soda Lime are highly toxic chemicals that the U.S. Navy discontinued use of in the mid-90's. But prior to that, the Navy UDT and SEAL Divers had to breath through these chemicals in undiluted form while using their closed circuit scuba gear. These chemicals are known to cause chemical burns, blindness, lung damage, skin irritation, rashes, and more. Today, their packaging states similar language such as ....."a highly corrosive poison; a corrosive & toxic substance; a dangerous chemical; used as an industrial cleaning agent." The breathing through these chemicals back then with these closed circuit scuba rigs is causing those veterans to now have several health conditions that need to be addressed. Serious dental health issues; serious lung conditions causing ongoing and sometimes uncontrollable coughing; itching and flaking skin in and around some body parts that are associated with the throat. This could also contribute greatly to acid reflux, and side effects on the brain such as TBI, PTSD or mental illness. The Navy UDT/SEAL Association and the Navy SEAL Foundation should be encouraged to contact as many of their former Teammates as possible to research this topic so that these veterans can receive treatment for these health conditions that they are now suffering from.
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Posted 2 y ago
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PO3 Ken Roper, I think you're the sixth person I responded to in the past two days regarding the PACT Act. Just curious, was there something that prompted you to ask the question now?
Regarding your question - no, there isn't anything regarding either baralyme or Soda lime in the PACT Act (in fact, I can't find any studies including those two in the VA databases).
If you're just asking as a hypothetical, then that should suffice. If you have an unasked follow-up of "why not", the answer is the same I gave to someone recently - The same reason that the vast majority other environmental hazards that are faced while in military service aren't part of it - either the science is clear about exposure (for example, skin burns from exposure to acids isn't part of the PACT Act either) or there wasn't been a marked statistical deviation from the 'norm' in service members (or at least not yet) becoming ill/injured due to environmental exposure.
One commonly misunderstood item about the VA is that just because you had exposure doesn't mean you receive some compensation or health care coverage. There needs to be a service connected illness or injury in order to be covered.
If in fact you have a lasting illness/injury related to baralyme or soda lime exposure, then as long as you can prove a service connection, you should be fine in getting VA health care coverage for treatment and/or a VA disability for it.
However, if you or anyone else believe you have had toxic exposure from something in your military service, I suggest you contact your local VA's Environmental Health Coordinator (EHC)* and discuss next steps about being evaluated.
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* https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/coordinators.asp
Regarding your question - no, there isn't anything regarding either baralyme or Soda lime in the PACT Act (in fact, I can't find any studies including those two in the VA databases).
If you're just asking as a hypothetical, then that should suffice. If you have an unasked follow-up of "why not", the answer is the same I gave to someone recently - The same reason that the vast majority other environmental hazards that are faced while in military service aren't part of it - either the science is clear about exposure (for example, skin burns from exposure to acids isn't part of the PACT Act either) or there wasn't been a marked statistical deviation from the 'norm' in service members (or at least not yet) becoming ill/injured due to environmental exposure.
One commonly misunderstood item about the VA is that just because you had exposure doesn't mean you receive some compensation or health care coverage. There needs to be a service connected illness or injury in order to be covered.
If in fact you have a lasting illness/injury related to baralyme or soda lime exposure, then as long as you can prove a service connection, you should be fine in getting VA health care coverage for treatment and/or a VA disability for it.
However, if you or anyone else believe you have had toxic exposure from something in your military service, I suggest you contact your local VA's Environmental Health Coordinator (EHC)* and discuss next steps about being evaluated.
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* https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/coordinators.asp
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PO3 Ken Roper
Thank you COL. Cudworth. You asked "Was there something that prompted me to ask the question now?" Actually, I've been asking these questions for many years, as I have all the symptoms listed, and the VA has been actively trying to find a reason for these symptoms, but they keep scratching their heads because they cannot figure out why. And the few old Teammates that I've kept in contact with have had similar symptoms. And it just isn't normal types of health issue conditions. So, whenever I have another chance to ask my questions, I do it. I have suggested poisoning from these 2 toxins, and the VA agree that it is a possibility, but since there haven't been any studies, nobody ever knows the answers. And I keep asking for the studies to be done, because there were a lot of us just doing our job that were unknowingly subjected to this poisoning.
Thank you for this suggestion about contacting the VA EHC. Nobody else has said that to me and I didn't know they exist.
Thank you for this suggestion about contacting the VA EHC. Nobody else has said that to me and I didn't know they exist.
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COL Randall C.
PO3 Ken Roper - You're welcome about the EHC recommendation.
Regarding what prompted you, I was referring to "what prompted you to ask the question this time" ... there has been a flurry of individuals (there was another VA PACT Act question by someone else just after I answered this one) in the last two days. Was just curious if the VA had sent out a mass mailing that people saw, if there was something that DFAS sent out, etc.
Regarding what prompted you, I was referring to "what prompted you to ask the question this time" ... there has been a flurry of individuals (there was another VA PACT Act question by someone else just after I answered this one) in the last two days. Was just curious if the VA had sent out a mass mailing that people saw, if there was something that DFAS sent out, etc.
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PO3 Ken Roper
Yes sir, the VA did send out their weekly email late yesterday. One of the topic points is "Do you have questions about Environmental Exposures, Burn Pits or the PACT Act?", and they offer a link to ask the question. I've tried to do this in the past but was never able to get signed on. This time it worked.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
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Are there documented cases in regards to this? I did some research and soda lime still currently is being used as a scrubbing agent in rebreathers. I don't know if the Pact Act would address this but connecting the dots between ailments and rebreathers wouldn't be hard if the medical history and documentation is there.
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