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Hey after watching the slow implosion of the Russian Army against Ukraine, I am curious, does China have an NCO Corps or is their Army like Russia's?
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Most countries have an NCO Corps but they seldom resemble anything that we have in the US. This is a good article that is pretty recent that talks about it.
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2022/05/ncos-america-has-them-china-wants-them-russia-struggling-without-them/366586/
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2022/05/ncos-america-has-them-china-wants-them-russia-struggling-without-them/366586/
NCOs: America Has Them, China Wants Them, Russia is Struggling Without Them
Non-commissioned officers, long the “backbone” of the U.S. military, are proving even more crucial on modern battlefields.
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China does have NCO's but unlike America, most nations don't utilize their NCO's the same way we do.
NCO's are less empowered to lead Soldiers at lower levels as many militaries around the world place an emphasis on officers leading and being the sole decision makers without allowing for that ability to improvise, adapt, and take the appropriate actions in the absence of orders.
A good modern example of this might by the Russia-Ukraine War in which Russia is losing many field grade officers as well as general officers.
Another difference seen around the world and even with our NATO allies is Warrant Officers. In the U.S., warrants are technical experts and aviators primarily, in other countries they are part of the Enlisted structure and fill roles like Regimental Sergeant Major further reducing the responsibility of a strong NCO Corps.
NCO's are less empowered to lead Soldiers at lower levels as many militaries around the world place an emphasis on officers leading and being the sole decision makers without allowing for that ability to improvise, adapt, and take the appropriate actions in the absence of orders.
A good modern example of this might by the Russia-Ukraine War in which Russia is losing many field grade officers as well as general officers.
Another difference seen around the world and even with our NATO allies is Warrant Officers. In the U.S., warrants are technical experts and aviators primarily, in other countries they are part of the Enlisted structure and fill roles like Regimental Sergeant Major further reducing the responsibility of a strong NCO Corps.
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Now the enlisted structure of the People's Liberation Army - Ground Force is as follows:
- Master Sergeant First Class
- Master Sergeant Second Class
- Master Sergeant Third Class
- Master Sergeant Fourth Class
- Senior Sergeant
- Sergeant
- Junior Sergeant
- Private First Class
- Private
Now the Junior Sergeant is effectively a Corporal and the Senior Sergeant appears to be similar to a Staff Sergeant. As for the Master Sergeant classes that is more difficult to determine, clearly the MSG 1st Class is the highest in rank but their level of responsibility is not clearly defined as far as I can find on a brief glance.
- Master Sergeant First Class
- Master Sergeant Second Class
- Master Sergeant Third Class
- Master Sergeant Fourth Class
- Senior Sergeant
- Sergeant
- Junior Sergeant
- Private First Class
- Private
Now the Junior Sergeant is effectively a Corporal and the Senior Sergeant appears to be similar to a Staff Sergeant. As for the Master Sergeant classes that is more difficult to determine, clearly the MSG 1st Class is the highest in rank but their level of responsibility is not clearly defined as far as I can find on a brief glance.
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You will see some different structure among some of our NATO allies as well, we'll take the UK for example with the British Army as many armies of the world utilize their rank structure.
Enlisted structure of the British Army is as follows:
- Warrant Officer Class 1
18-20+ years in service, functions similarly to a Command Sergeant Major at the Battalion to Regimental level
- Warrant Officer Class 2
16-20 years in service, functions similarly to a First Sergeant to Sergeant Major, advises Field Grade Officers.
- Staff Sergeant / Colour Sergeant
14-16 years in service, functions similarly to a First Sergeant.
- Sergeant
12 years in service, functions as a Platoon Sergeant or Sergeant First Class compared to us.
- Corporal
6-8 years in service, leads a team, squad, or section.
- Lance Corporal
4 years in service, similar to a Specialist, leads a team.
- Private
Might be preferred to as a Trooper, Gunner, Signaller, Sapper, Guardsman, Rifleman or Kingsman depending on unit or their version of an MOS.
Enlisted structure of the British Army is as follows:
- Warrant Officer Class 1
18-20+ years in service, functions similarly to a Command Sergeant Major at the Battalion to Regimental level
- Warrant Officer Class 2
16-20 years in service, functions similarly to a First Sergeant to Sergeant Major, advises Field Grade Officers.
- Staff Sergeant / Colour Sergeant
14-16 years in service, functions similarly to a First Sergeant.
- Sergeant
12 years in service, functions as a Platoon Sergeant or Sergeant First Class compared to us.
- Corporal
6-8 years in service, leads a team, squad, or section.
- Lance Corporal
4 years in service, similar to a Specialist, leads a team.
- Private
Might be preferred to as a Trooper, Gunner, Signaller, Sapper, Guardsman, Rifleman or Kingsman depending on unit or their version of an MOS.
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