Posted on Apr 19, 2022
Going to AIT at Fort Huachuca as 35F - rejoining as a NCO. Anybody go through the same thing?
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Just joined rally point. I was looking to get some information about AIT as a 35F in fort Hauchau. I was in the national gaurd got out and was able to come back in apart of the active army. I retained my e5 rank and was hoping to find out what the instructors and drill Sgt’s will be expecting of me. Will I be helping with condition drills in the mornings, marching anywhere, or anything like that? Is there anything you guys could suggest to brush up on to be prepared for this training? Got a copy of atp 2-01.3 I also won’t have my pov while I’m down there, is that going to be a big deal? Any advise or tips would greatly be appreciated!
Other recommended readings:ADRP 1-02, ADP 2-0, ADRP 2-0, ATP 2-01.3 and ATP 2-33.4.
Other recommended readings:ADRP 1-02, ADP 2-0, ADRP 2-0, ATP 2-01.3 and ATP 2-33.4.
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As a retiring 35F instructor, we expect you to uphold the standards of an NCO while in class without imposing any implied authority. We don’t expect you to know anything so in that aspect, you will be as knowledgeable of the job as the privates you will be in class with. You will be a MOS-T so you will have a lot more freedom than the IET soldiers, but don’t take that for granted. There is a lot of out of the classroom homework you need to complete and there will be times when you have to go to the IET barracks to work on products after hours. In my time, MOS-T students fall behind their pod mates because they abuse their freedom and fail to learn the required information and fail tests. The readings you were recommended are great because you will use them in class, but ensure you understand symbology.
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I saw that you hit this thread a few times I appreciate you reaching out SSG. I realize that I will have more freedoms then the IET but I will not abuse it. Because I am rejoining I know I have ground to make up and that these next four months will only be spent regaining knowledge and learning a whole new job and skill set. I am starting a new life, I will not mess it up.
The symbology you said to look into is there a specific ATP that has them all so I can start memorizing them?
From what I found out we hit the ground running on the fist day so bring study materials, tabs, note books, and sharpies - is there anything else you would suggest? Should I bring my laptop for outside the schoolhouse or will there be computers I could use during study hall and after hours?
The symbology you said to look into is there a specific ATP that has them all so I can start memorizing them?
From what I found out we hit the ground running on the fist day so bring study materials, tabs, note books, and sharpies - is there anything else you would suggest? Should I bring my laptop for outside the schoolhouse or will there be computers I could use during study hall and after hours?
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Fm 1.02.2. I wouldn’t be against bringing your laptop for outside if you want to download the references, but you will be given a complete set. Tabs can have notes on them, they can only reference the section being tabbed. Note books are fine. SGT (Join to see)
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Hello SGT Boyd,
You reaching out in this capacity is already a step in the right direction.
I'm currently at the Intelligence Analyst Training Committee and SSG (Join to see) already hit some key points, but I'd like to offer the following.
Firstly- you are an NCO. We expect you to act like one, but also expect you to take the time to acknowledge the nuances of TRADOC. In TRADOC, you maintain all general military authority as an NCO- on the spot corrections for deficiencies is appreciated and approved. However this comes in the format of verbal corrective action and nothing further. If any IET student doesn't fix the issue, bring it to an NCO instructor and we'll sort it out.
Secondly- but truly your first priority- you are a student here to learn how to be a 35F. There will be general expectations of you as a MOS-T NCO to understand basic functions of the Army, but you will be held to the same standard on the Individual Student Assessment Plan as new Soldiers, with some small nuances (you will get a copy on day 1 in the course). Do your homework. Ask questions. Stay engaged. Do these things and you will succeed.
Thirdly- you have freedoms beyond that of IET Soldiers of course, but like a normal unit you have a mileage radius. In this duty assignment, it may be more restrictive than previous experiences so I implore you to do the right thing always. We've had several MOS-T students lose rank because they did not respect basic guidance about mileage and other items during their time in the course.
Fourth- PRT will include conducting the ACFT. They recently changed the way MOS-T's conduct PRT, so I don't know if it'll be with other MOS-Ts or with IET students. You may need to conduct the PRT Prepatory Drill as part of grading for your 1059, but we'll see what happens. Either way- it will be on you to remain physically fit while in the course.
Fifth- Enjoy your time here. Learn from your fellow reclassing Soldiers. Explore the local area. I implore you to bring a POV if available, or look into options with battle buddies. The current distance from where you will stay, your DFAC, the PT location, and the school house will not be walking distance. Alternatively, a bike may be a good way to work on cardio, but be aware that Fort Huachuca is just short of a mile high (we're as high as Denver in the parts of the installation on the foothills of the mountain).
I hope this helps. Good luck, do great things and as we say in the MI Corps- Always Out Front!
-SFC Mullet
You reaching out in this capacity is already a step in the right direction.
I'm currently at the Intelligence Analyst Training Committee and SSG (Join to see) already hit some key points, but I'd like to offer the following.
Firstly- you are an NCO. We expect you to act like one, but also expect you to take the time to acknowledge the nuances of TRADOC. In TRADOC, you maintain all general military authority as an NCO- on the spot corrections for deficiencies is appreciated and approved. However this comes in the format of verbal corrective action and nothing further. If any IET student doesn't fix the issue, bring it to an NCO instructor and we'll sort it out.
Secondly- but truly your first priority- you are a student here to learn how to be a 35F. There will be general expectations of you as a MOS-T NCO to understand basic functions of the Army, but you will be held to the same standard on the Individual Student Assessment Plan as new Soldiers, with some small nuances (you will get a copy on day 1 in the course). Do your homework. Ask questions. Stay engaged. Do these things and you will succeed.
Thirdly- you have freedoms beyond that of IET Soldiers of course, but like a normal unit you have a mileage radius. In this duty assignment, it may be more restrictive than previous experiences so I implore you to do the right thing always. We've had several MOS-T students lose rank because they did not respect basic guidance about mileage and other items during their time in the course.
Fourth- PRT will include conducting the ACFT. They recently changed the way MOS-T's conduct PRT, so I don't know if it'll be with other MOS-Ts or with IET students. You may need to conduct the PRT Prepatory Drill as part of grading for your 1059, but we'll see what happens. Either way- it will be on you to remain physically fit while in the course.
Fifth- Enjoy your time here. Learn from your fellow reclassing Soldiers. Explore the local area. I implore you to bring a POV if available, or look into options with battle buddies. The current distance from where you will stay, your DFAC, the PT location, and the school house will not be walking distance. Alternatively, a bike may be a good way to work on cardio, but be aware that Fort Huachuca is just short of a mile high (we're as high as Denver in the parts of the installation on the foothills of the mountain).
I hope this helps. Good luck, do great things and as we say in the MI Corps- Always Out Front!
-SFC Mullet
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Oh I almost forgot- Arizona has a "DUI in the slightest" law on the books, so your 2-3 drink limit is now zero. If the local Police or Sheriffs pull you over and you had one bud light with a 0.01 BAC they can charge you under this. It is similar to a DUI and just as damaging to your military career. USE A TRUSTED DD OR AN UBER.
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Thank you SFC (Join to see) ! I appreciate all six of your points and will adhere to all of them. This has helped put my mind at easy so that I can focus on the tasks at hand before I ship out here in about a week and half. Be safe and thank you again for taking the time to respond to me.
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This really has been helpful, SFC. I truly look forward to arriving next week. Is there any way we can connect and discuss travel to Huachuca? I was told by the civilian at MEPS that I was to fly, and didn’t have a say in the matter. I can have my vehicle brought by the 2nd weekend there, however it sounds as though it’d be most convenient to have it from the get-go.
I appreciate your time in this matter, and do apologize if this comes as a burden or bother
Thanks,
SGT Hopkins
I appreciate your time in this matter, and do apologize if this comes as a burden or bother
Thanks,
SGT Hopkins
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SGT (Join to see) - All good SGT- sent you a message with some specifics. Are you swapping from a different service or USAR/ARNG?
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From what I remember the last time I was in AIT as a PS with NCOs in my class....you will be expected to stay away from the IETs except for POI time. None of the NCOs in my last AIT did anything other than be a Student. No assisting/leading PRT. No marching any of the IETs anywhere. In fact, the Cadre informed all of us PS folks (including the NCOs) that we are not authorized to correct any of the IETs for anything.
With that being said, when you get to your Training Company, the Cadre will tell you all you need to know in regards to your Left/Right boundaries as an NCO PS Student.
With that being said, when you get to your Training Company, the Cadre will tell you all you need to know in regards to your Left/Right boundaries as an NCO PS Student.
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Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. I was expecting more of what you laid out above. I will wait to see what the Cadre instructions and do whatever is needed. Would you have any suggestion on what i should brush up on in the mean time?
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SGT (Join to see) - I'd just recommend studying up on the MOS materials that you can get your hands on for this MOS. And, if it has been a good spell since you were last in, get brushed up on PRT. While you won't lead it with the IETs, you'll still be doing PRT with the IETs. Don't wanna look like you don't know what you're doing.
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