Posted on Mar 8, 2022
Would it be offensive to modify the Pathfinder torch when designing a SAR tattoo?
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I am designing a SAR tattoo and I'd like to modify the Pathfinder torch a little as an honor to the skills of the Pathfinder, but since I never went to Pathfinder school I obviously don't want to wear the actual torch.
I'm thinking of having the flame burn up and not as if the torch was being carried and adding an identical wing to the other side of the torch. I'm then going to have that replace the needle in the middle of the ring.
This will pay tribute to the Pathfinder skillset and history, modified for a non-Pathfinder, and reflect the SAR use of a compass. I don't have an image to share, right now it's all in my head.
My question is this, would that be offensive to modify the Pathfinder torch in this manner in your opinion?
I'm thinking of having the flame burn up and not as if the torch was being carried and adding an identical wing to the other side of the torch. I'm then going to have that replace the needle in the middle of the ring.
This will pay tribute to the Pathfinder skillset and history, modified for a non-Pathfinder, and reflect the SAR use of a compass. I don't have an image to share, right now it's all in my head.
My question is this, would that be offensive to modify the Pathfinder torch in this manner in your opinion?
Posted 3 y ago
Responses: 3
SSG Christopher Parrish, first, I agree with SFC Casey O'Mally: Its your body do what you want.
However, your question indicates to me that you are sensitive to how your design may be perceived by others. The obvious issue may be with the use of a design that can clearly be interpreted as the Pathfinder torch, without having actually been to course. Imagine the conversation with an actual pathfinder when they ask about the tattoo. The same thing would go for the SEAL trident or the word "Sapper" over a castle. Even altered, many people can spot the meaning from a mile away. It why we buy Army swag, to display pride and association.
I had family serve in the Marine Corps and they all have some form of the globe and anchor tattooed in visible locations. I imagine a conversation with someone who never served in the corps would not result in mutual understanding of interpretive art.
At the end of the day, the act of modifying military logos and insignia (and getting them tattooed) goes way back. I don't think anyone would be "offended" by the modification of the torch.
However, your question indicates to me that you are sensitive to how your design may be perceived by others. The obvious issue may be with the use of a design that can clearly be interpreted as the Pathfinder torch, without having actually been to course. Imagine the conversation with an actual pathfinder when they ask about the tattoo. The same thing would go for the SEAL trident or the word "Sapper" over a castle. Even altered, many people can spot the meaning from a mile away. It why we buy Army swag, to display pride and association.
I had family serve in the Marine Corps and they all have some form of the globe and anchor tattooed in visible locations. I imagine a conversation with someone who never served in the corps would not result in mutual understanding of interpretive art.
At the end of the day, the act of modifying military logos and insignia (and getting them tattooed) goes way back. I don't think anyone would be "offended" by the modification of the torch.
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Tribute tattoos are a sticky scenario. Everybody wants a cool tat but nobody wants it to be misunderstood. The fact you are asking the question tells you already had concerns. It's your body so it's ultimately your choice but I would recommend doing your best to avoid things that could cause issues.
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