Posted on Jun 11, 2015

What is your 'favorite' example of perceived or real UCMJ injustice?

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Most times UCMJ is fair. Other times it is blatantly not. Do you have a specific example that sticks in your craw?

I do. Once under a female Battalion Commander, there was a case where two married SPCs (married to other people and not each other) decided to have an affair. The female's spouse found out and actually video taped one of their indiscretions and mailed it to the BN CDR. Neither SPC had any kids and had about the same DOR and TIG. The result? Both received extra duty but he was reduced in rank and paid a fine. She lost no rank and had suspended pay reduction. WTF?

I wasn't in the room but off the cuff it looked wrong.

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I sit on a court marshal for a man who went AWOL. His reason, he got a Red Cross notification that his Dad was dying. His commander refused him leave because he had just returned for a two week leave.

Frankly we (court) all believed that we should be trying the commander instead of the airman.

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Sgt (Join to see) - Four out of five agreed with your comments. Emergency leave should always be granted unless it is not possible.

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PV2 Glen Lewis

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He should've been given leave to go to his Father's funeral and any punishment for his AWOL should have been applied afterward. The two week leave should've had no bearing in this matter. Unfair and unfeeling.

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SGT David Scott

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When I was a private at Fort Bragg, I went on leave with a friend to visit his family in Detroit. while I was there, his family's house burned down. I know this wasn't my family, but I called my Squad Leader and told him the situation. He told me he had nothing to do with it and to call the Asst Platoon SGT. I did, and he told me to call the Platoon SGT. I did, and the Platoon SGt told me it was ok to stay there to help them out for a few more days(I was the guys ride up there), just fill out the paperwork when I get back and they will change the days I was on leave. when I got back, I found out that I was considered AWOL and was facing a Field grade Article 15. I was pissed but I didn't know what to do. I was a private after all. Then a few days before I had to face the commander, I was cleaning up the battalion building and a SM was in there. He asked me how I was doing being new to the Unit( Was there for a few months) and for some reason, I told him what happened. He told me to write down everything that was said from the moment I spoke with my SQD LDR to my PLT SGT and have it presented to the Commander. The morning of the meeting, while I was standing outside the commanders door with my SQD LDR and ASst PLT SGT, I gave my SQD LDR my statement. he read it and frowned, then he gave it to the ASST PLT SGT. He looked like he saw a ghost! When my PLT SGT came out, he read it. he paused and told me that he would back me if I didn't give this to the commander. I knew I was going to get some kind of punishment, I didn't want to lose rank or pay. so I told him ok, but I will hold onto my statement. in the end I only got a company grade and 7 days extra duty.

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Sounds like several people didn't do the follow-up needed.

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SSG Michael Scott

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Come on everyone. If I was to have classified information sent to my server for my convenience without chain of command approval. Any soldier would be under UMCJ action. I do not give a damn who you are, or what your position of authority is. Anyone who lies to the American people tells the Egyptian president, and her daughter something different, is total BS. In addition, doing
foundation funding on your blackberry, and having your top lawyer advisor and aide flying from d.c. to New York to do a interview for the foundation. On my tax payer Federal government time, WTF? In addition, and Clinton's aide being hired for the state department and the clinton foundation, conflict of interest. Again, this is the classic example of the email, Benghazi, and money laundering. This is Federal injustice.

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Well, if your name starts with Hillary and ends with Clinton, then you're in luck...you are innocent! But, we only need to look as far as what many of our senior leaders do and ask the same question....

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