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I am asking this question on behalf of a fellow platoon member who is not on RallyPoint. My coworker is in the process of PCSing to Washington this year. They submitted PCS leave for October so they can clear housing, supply, company, etc. Their leave got denied because they are not vaccinated. Now we (everyone in my company) all remember what the Secretary of Defense said when COVID first hit. They were wondering if their leave was denied on a legitimate reason?
Coronavirus COVID19
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Leave isn't guaranteed. Due to the lack of being vaccinated that SM can pose a risk to readiness to those in the unit and in the area. Most PCS move require a SM to go into isolation for 2 weeks. This is exempted for those that are vaccinated. It is the same thing for those going to schools at Fort Benning. You report and you go into isolation. If you are vaccinated then you can bypass that time and report on the regular day for the school.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
CPT (Join to see) It doesn't make sense to deny PCS or ETS leave for unvaccinated though. Especially ETS.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
SPC (Join to see) - I am uncertain why you are on the fence regarding the vaccine but will address one aspect that has been keeping people from getting the vaccine, how fast it was completed. Vaccines and treatment for many diseases used to take years to complete and this one came on board in less than a year. Scary and dangerous you might say, well not really. A difference in times past is both the equipment available and the understanding of virology. COVID-19 is a coronavirus and these are not knew and once you start studying a particular virus, you begin to understand it and the longer and more there are of them, the better the understanding. Our equipment to both see and work with viruses have come leaps and bounds since HIV in the late 70s. We really can do it better and faster. Our peers around the world we can get on with TEAMs and have a conversation right here and right now, not via telephone at $3/min. We can share what we are seeing in our microscopes immediately.
Adverse reactions we hear in the news, yeah those happen with other vaccines but that telling you that does not sell newspapers. I can tell you back in 2006 I was more scared of getting smallpox in my eyes from the vaccine site than I was of the COVID vaccine last December.
As a member of the Army Healthcare team, I should not discourage you from getting the vaccine however I will not blow sunshine up some one's ass to get something I do not believe in. I took care of COVID patients in an ICU from NOV-FEB and completed my series in JAN.
Byron Oyler, RN, BSN
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Adverse reactions we hear in the news, yeah those happen with other vaccines but that telling you that does not sell newspapers. I can tell you back in 2006 I was more scared of getting smallpox in my eyes from the vaccine site than I was of the COVID vaccine last December.
As a member of the Army Healthcare team, I should not discourage you from getting the vaccine however I will not blow sunshine up some one's ass to get something I do not believe in. I took care of COVID patients in an ICU from NOV-FEB and completed my series in JAN.
Byron Oyler, RN, BSN
MAJ, AN
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MAJ Byron Oyler - Thank you Sir for explaining the vaccine from the Army Medical POV. We were not given and information from a military medical stand point. Having this information you described puts me more at ease about the vaccine available to us service members. I really appreciate the insight.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SPC (Join to see) - You know the information is fully available to anyone about the covid-19 vaccine, right? Also, have you checked with your aid station? Battalion surgeon? The hospital on base at all? Granted the medical personnel in your unit should be educating everyone but the information is out there for anyone to read too.
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Your friend is not being penalized by having their leave denied. Your commander can deny leave for any reason, especially when it supports morale, discipline, or the health of the unit.
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Scenario: unvaccinated Soldier takes leave to a hot spot and contracts COVID. Returns to base or arrives at new base and infects all the other Soldiers that are unvaccinated as well. Some die. Who’s fault is that now? The Soldier? The leader that could have prevented it?
A small amount of discomfort i.e. not being allowed to take leave or go outside a radius is a small price to pay in an attempt to prevent something worse from happening. Leaders do it all the time. They attempt to reduce risk by implementing risk reduction methods and procedures.
A small amount of discomfort i.e. not being allowed to take leave or go outside a radius is a small price to pay in an attempt to prevent something worse from happening. Leaders do it all the time. They attempt to reduce risk by implementing risk reduction methods and procedures.
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