Posted on May 25, 2015
Advanced motorcycle course - Required for active duty?
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I'm trying to understand what is required for riding for active duty personnel. I took the MSF basic riders course to get my license, and have my M classification, but I've heard from some others that that might not be enough. I'm hearing that we also have to take the advanced riders course. Wondering if anyone else can enlighten me.
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http://www.wsmr.army.mil/PDF/motorcyclesafetyhandbook.PDF
http://www.wsmr.army.mil/PDF/motocycleSafetyGuide.PDF
These seem to be the relevant documents, and wen to say MSF is he baseline requirement but that commanders may add requirements.
Kudos for trying to figure out the right way to ride; so many of your motorcycle enthusiast colleagues just seem to ignore the fact that the Army has published directives on this topic.
http://www.wsmr.army.mil/PDF/motocycleSafetyGuide.PDF
These seem to be the relevant documents, and wen to say MSF is he baseline requirement but that commanders may add requirements.
Kudos for trying to figure out the right way to ride; so many of your motorcycle enthusiast colleagues just seem to ignore the fact that the Army has published directives on this topic.
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Sir, I was a Battalion Safety Officer and Motor Cycle Safety advisor a few years ago and according to the Combat Readiness Center/Safety Center and AR 385-10, depending on what type of bike you own, you either had to compete the BRC-II or the ERC course within 12 months of completing the BRC. Also, if you deployed for more than 180 days, you have to complete MRT training and finally, after 5 years after completing the original BRC course, you have to perform sustainment training. I hope this helps.
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CW4 (Join to see) I did the basic course like 4 years ago and got my license but didn't buy a motorcycle at the time. Are they going to want me to retake the basic course because I didn't immediately take the advanced?
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Your unit shouldn't require you to retake the BRC but it might be installation driven. We had a few of those situations where someone didn't know about the ERC/BRC-II requirement or the previous unit didn't enforce the training and I advised the Command that the rider shouldn't have to re-take the BRC and they agreed.
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MAJ (Join to see)
CW4 (Join to see) So I should probably take the advanced course and see what happens regarding the basic? I guess if I have the advanced course command is more likely to not care about the fact that my basic course is a few years old.
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I think that is a good idea. I don't see any reasons as why they would require you to take the BRC all over again.
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AR 385-10 outlines that within 12 months, you need to have the MSF Advanced course.
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MAJ (Join to see)
MSG (Join to see) Part of why I'm asking about this - I would have to take the basic course again to do advanced within 1 year of that. And that would be kind of dumb considering it's $350 and I already have a motorcycle license. Then again, I guess expecting something rational from the Army may be setting myself up for disappointment.
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