Posted on Mar 5, 2021
Do you think there is an unintended consequence telling everyone in bootcamp, some as young as 17 and 18 they have no rights?
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Not sure if things have changed but in the 1990s in bootcamp a memory would still be there, the fundamental "you have no rights"
I think I would of faired better in life, as when I was 26 honorably finished, I was so used to abuse, and I was vulnerable, with no real sense of identity, no real transferable skills to the civilian life from the ship, sort of empty one might say, drifting, unable to identify a real predator, definitely older guys usually looking for younger guys who are obviously lost, as it can be seen in the eyes and in the voice
The unintended Consequence of not teaching a young guy or girl in bootcamp how valuable and protected they are by the Constitution of which they swore an Oath to Defend, can put someone back into society unable to identify and defend from a real predator
Infact it will be harder to identify in service right from wrong when you disarmed mentally with a statement they have no right
In reality this statement is false and that should not be a threat to anyone that someone brave enough to sign a military enlistment and swore an oath to defend the constitution has more rights from being victim of abuse, then they possibly even imagined
I think young kids would still line up and put out
Some are very impressionable like a sponge.
You could of told them they are very valuable United States Citizens and we are going to need every last ounce of your courage commitment dedication to Make America Great Defend the Constitution and the Rights it encodes.
I think. you could find an unlimited amount of Patriotic Kids who would be emboldened and make America Great by stating this in bootcamp and get better results as they were now doing things with a more developed sense of the reality they are attempting to affect
This is just a memory of my bootcamp experience mid 1990s. You Have no Rights as if was funny. I had no idea.
Its not like I needed that thought process put in me the day you step off the bus onto the grinder. No father to fall back on the military was my family, I was doing this willingly and was very patriotic and going to put out.
I think I would of faired better in life, as when I was 26 honorably finished, I was so used to abuse, and I was vulnerable, with no real sense of identity, no real transferable skills to the civilian life from the ship, sort of empty one might say, drifting, unable to identify a real predator, definitely older guys usually looking for younger guys who are obviously lost, as it can be seen in the eyes and in the voice
The unintended Consequence of not teaching a young guy or girl in bootcamp how valuable and protected they are by the Constitution of which they swore an Oath to Defend, can put someone back into society unable to identify and defend from a real predator
Infact it will be harder to identify in service right from wrong when you disarmed mentally with a statement they have no right
In reality this statement is false and that should not be a threat to anyone that someone brave enough to sign a military enlistment and swore an oath to defend the constitution has more rights from being victim of abuse, then they possibly even imagined
I think young kids would still line up and put out
Some are very impressionable like a sponge.
You could of told them they are very valuable United States Citizens and we are going to need every last ounce of your courage commitment dedication to Make America Great Defend the Constitution and the Rights it encodes.
I think. you could find an unlimited amount of Patriotic Kids who would be emboldened and make America Great by stating this in bootcamp and get better results as they were now doing things with a more developed sense of the reality they are attempting to affect
This is just a memory of my bootcamp experience mid 1990s. You Have no Rights as if was funny. I had no idea.
Its not like I needed that thought process put in me the day you step off the bus onto the grinder. No father to fall back on the military was my family, I was doing this willingly and was very patriotic and going to put out.
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The job of the military is not to tell young men and women that they are valuable. The constitution is not mentioned in Boot Camp. My Boot Camp was in 1968 and we were being prepared for combat to endure the hardships and survive. Boot Camp did the job because I am still alive. Combat is harder than any Boot Camp will ever be. The mental, physical, and emotional stress of combat is enormous. Those that can't handle Boot Camp will not be able to handle combat.
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Not once in basic did I get told I "have no rights." Everyone in the military retains every single right that the Constitution affords everyone else in the civilian world.
The difference between the military and civilian life is that we are held to a different standard. We have UCMJ that applies to us. The only things we are prohibited from is participating in political activities/rallies in uniform. Not participating in extremist groups/activities. Those seem relatively fair to expect SMs NOT to participate in.
I'm curious - have you ever or do you get counseling? You don't have to answer but it seems like you have a lot of issues you need addressed.
The difference between the military and civilian life is that we are held to a different standard. We have UCMJ that applies to us. The only things we are prohibited from is participating in political activities/rallies in uniform. Not participating in extremist groups/activities. Those seem relatively fair to expect SMs NOT to participate in.
I'm curious - have you ever or do you get counseling? You don't have to answer but it seems like you have a lot of issues you need addressed.
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They still have rights. Their rights are not gone. Still have religious freedoms. Still have freedoms of speech (however there are consequences for what they may say). However, there are some liberties that we willingly surrender when we willingly enlist.
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