Posted on May 17, 2015
Specialist is trying to go to WLC but getting denied. Can he do anything?
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This is a long confusing situation so please bear with me…
This Soldier got a DUI 2yrs ago & lost his log on credentials. Got the punishment & everything that came with it. He has since cleaned up his act, got his licenses back & done everything he could to show he is ready for the board.
They told him he cannot go to the board till he has log on credentials to the computer since he will need it at WLC. Meaning having his own user name/password instead of signing on as a Guest.
They say they can give him "temporary" access but it takes time to process & it has to be "timed" right when he goes to WLC since it expires in a short time frame, which apparently 4mths later they still can't figure out how to do all this to be able to send him. From what I remember you couldn't get your own username/password till you became an E5 (Fort Bragg was like that). Not sure how each unit works.
I've asked him if his unit gives him a monthly counseling of why he can't go to the board, has not received one. He has tried using the open door policy but it stops at Platoon level or Company Commander, still not receiving any answers.
He shouldn't of screwed up you're right before anyone says anything but he made a mistake & has learned as well changed in the last 2 years. He gets out next year & wishes to stay in progressing. His Platoon SGT seems to be holding a grudge (personal opinion from a few) or they are just stringing him along.
Unless he makes points to be promoted (since he has done the board) & they have to force him to WLC is that the only way?
What can this Soldier do in order to be able to go to WLC?
This Soldier got a DUI 2yrs ago & lost his log on credentials. Got the punishment & everything that came with it. He has since cleaned up his act, got his licenses back & done everything he could to show he is ready for the board.
They told him he cannot go to the board till he has log on credentials to the computer since he will need it at WLC. Meaning having his own user name/password instead of signing on as a Guest.
They say they can give him "temporary" access but it takes time to process & it has to be "timed" right when he goes to WLC since it expires in a short time frame, which apparently 4mths later they still can't figure out how to do all this to be able to send him. From what I remember you couldn't get your own username/password till you became an E5 (Fort Bragg was like that). Not sure how each unit works.
I've asked him if his unit gives him a monthly counseling of why he can't go to the board, has not received one. He has tried using the open door policy but it stops at Platoon level or Company Commander, still not receiving any answers.
He shouldn't of screwed up you're right before anyone says anything but he made a mistake & has learned as well changed in the last 2 years. He gets out next year & wishes to stay in progressing. His Platoon SGT seems to be holding a grudge (personal opinion from a few) or they are just stringing him along.
Unless he makes points to be promoted (since he has done the board) & they have to force him to WLC is that the only way?
What can this Soldier do in order to be able to go to WLC?
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Responses: 8
Army Regulation 600-8-19, Enlisted Promotions and Reductions — this is the best starting point. If you feel the Soldier is being treated unjust after attempting to use chain of command look to JAG or IG as a last result.
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That's what I thought was the next step if his unit doesn't do anything was not sure 100%. Thank you SFC King
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If what you said is all the information there is an issue here and I would recommend the I G for further guidance.
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At some point this individual will become fed up and leave and become yet another statistic. Yes many of us "screw the pooch" one time or another in our careers. I was a Captain for 10 years - due to my own stupidity. But if you make amends, mend your ways and walk the straight and narrow, the CofC should reinstate their trust and allow you to progress. This sounds like "zero tolerance for mistakes". Treatment like this eventually leads to attitude problems and the SM potentially slipping back to their old ways.
I've never heard of losing log on credentials to a computer system as part of punishment. What system are they barred from that would be needed ad WLT - I've been out for a while so I'm not up to speed on all the changes. This sounds damaging, especially if it prohibits the soldier access to training, as opposed to punishment.
Another step you could try using the open door policies is, in order, for the SM to request meetings with the PSG, 1SG and CSM. At each step if the SM can't get answers or is inhibited, then they request a meeting at the next level. If there truly is someone holding a grudge, going through this process SHOULD vet that out. Insure the SM is coached prior to, uniformed appropriately and acts professionally at each meeting. Insure they have written documentation showing their rehabilitation and return to good standing and their points, etc. to show they are eligible to attend school.
Hope this helps.
I've never heard of losing log on credentials to a computer system as part of punishment. What system are they barred from that would be needed ad WLT - I've been out for a while so I'm not up to speed on all the changes. This sounds damaging, especially if it prohibits the soldier access to training, as opposed to punishment.
Another step you could try using the open door policies is, in order, for the SM to request meetings with the PSG, 1SG and CSM. At each step if the SM can't get answers or is inhibited, then they request a meeting at the next level. If there truly is someone holding a grudge, going through this process SHOULD vet that out. Insure the SM is coached prior to, uniformed appropriately and acts professionally at each meeting. Insure they have written documentation showing their rehabilitation and return to good standing and their points, etc. to show they are eligible to attend school.
Hope this helps.
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