Posted on Jan 30, 2021
What discharge status will be on my DD214 if I am barred from reenlistment for refusing to go to or failing the board?
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i'm getting out in 4 months and my capstone with tap is next week along with the board as well as my part 2 physical and i've hit my primary zone and i don't wanna go to the board if i refuse or fail the board and get barred what type of discharge status will i receive and will this affect my possible overseas security contracting job offer
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There are three discharge related items in your DD214. Your Discharge Status, SPD code, and RE code. You're not being kicked out, so you will receive an Honorable discharge, but you're being Denied Continued Service so that will be reflected in your RE code and SPD code.
You've served Honorably but you're not allowed to return without a waiver. If I had a dollar for every initial term Soldier who told me they didn't care because they're getting out and never coming back - when then try to come back a year later - I could buy a lot of bitcoin with those dollars.
Rule #1 in life - "Don't be a Dumbass". Don't make a decision that will have drastic effects on your future just because you're afraid of standing in front of the board for 20 minutes. You don't even have enough time left in the Army to go to BLC let alone get promoted, so it can't be that you don't want the responsibility.
So, that means it's the actual board piece you have anxiety about. Well, it's good practice. Get used to interviewing, because you'll be doing it a lot over your civilian career and throughout the rest of your life.
You've served Honorably but you're not allowed to return without a waiver. If I had a dollar for every initial term Soldier who told me they didn't care because they're getting out and never coming back - when then try to come back a year later - I could buy a lot of bitcoin with those dollars.
Rule #1 in life - "Don't be a Dumbass". Don't make a decision that will have drastic effects on your future just because you're afraid of standing in front of the board for 20 minutes. You don't even have enough time left in the Army to go to BLC let alone get promoted, so it can't be that you don't want the responsibility.
So, that means it's the actual board piece you have anxiety about. Well, it's good practice. Get used to interviewing, because you'll be doing it a lot over your civilian career and throughout the rest of your life.
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SGT Robert Wager
This! I am 50 years old and have heard the same thing for years from people getting a chapter out of the military with a bad RE code and an OTH or General discharge. Kids with 2 or 3 years in and making decisions that will effect them 35 years later.
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SSG Bill McCoy
I "thought" that the discharge codes, and the RE codes were eliminated from DD Form 214? The reason given was the codes were published and employers used them to eliminate them from employment. In fact, EEO regs even prohibit an employer from asking for a DD Form 214 until AFTER a job offer. THEN, it can be used to verify a candidate's statements or claims about rank, schools, and discharge type. Another fact, job applicants can NOT be asked if they have an Honorable Discharge or not. The way it's asked is, "Do you have other than a DIS-honorable discharge," with the obvious reply hopefully being, "Yes, I have an Honorable Discharge."
I agree - he should go before the Board, if for no other reason, for practice and experience with interviews. It's also an appropriate time for him to point out that he does not have enough time left to further qualify. I suspect he'd still get an RE1 code (if they still use that).
I agree - he should go before the Board, if for no other reason, for practice and experience with interviews. It's also an appropriate time for him to point out that he does not have enough time left to further qualify. I suspect he'd still get an RE1 code (if they still use that).
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SSG Bill McCoy I'm not sure about any of that stuff. The SPD and RE codes are mostly used by recruiters to determine the eligibility for a person to rejoin the military. As for his RE code he would get an RE3 because he's no longer eligible to remain on AD because of his bar. For Army, RE3 means needs a waiver.
People joining GS jobs have to provide their DD214 and disclose their discharge status. Civilian employers can ask that all they like, because EEO regulations are not laws.
People joining GS jobs have to provide their DD214 and disclose their discharge status. Civilian employers can ask that all they like, because EEO regulations are not laws.
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SSG Bill McCoy
SFC: Thanks for clarifying all that. I'm guessing that, because the company I worked for had, at the time, at least ONE Gov't contract. Therefore we had to adhere to STRICT EEO regs. We were definitely not allowed to ask for the 214 until an offer was made which essentially hired a person.
That was in the 80's to early 2000's so as for RE and Discharge codes, all that could have changed. I should ask to wee my two sons' 214's, just out of curiosity.
Thanks again.
That was in the 80's to early 2000's so as for RE and Discharge codes, all that could have changed. I should ask to wee my two sons' 214's, just out of curiosity.
Thanks again.
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More than likely an Honorable Discharge with an RE-1 or an RE-2. Nothing worse than that, I am guessing. However, you could always talk with your S1 to see what they say.
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Actually it's an RE3 with an SPD code for denied continued service. It's a pain to get waivered too. They usually have to reach out to the old Career Counselor and ask for a copy of the bar paperwork, which gets shredded after a while
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While I agree with the consensus that you should go to the board, I say do the absolute minimum to pass. Your command is wasting your time, so waste theirs. Do not fail the board, study for it. And by all means, if the board members note that you're ETSing in four months and ask you why you're at the board, "Because my chain required me to" is a valid answer.....as long as you do the minimum required to pass the board. Don't go in there to fail.
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