Posted on Oct 14, 2020
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You wish to file an IG complaint on an E-8? You certainly can. However, be sure you have your facts straight, first. Be prepared, though, that when you contact IG, depending on the reason for the call, they may tell you that your case may not be IG and could very well be EO. Also, be prepared to be told that IG will conduct (if it falls under IG and warrants one) an investigation and only recommend courses of action to the appropriate authorities.
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MSgt Jonathan Stump
MSgt Jonathan Stump
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CPL John Day - can I get a reference as to where recording a conversation that you are part of on a military installation is illegal?
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MSgt Jonathan Stump
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and then, stepping off base to make that same exact phone call is some how now "legal"?
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CPL John Day everything you said is wrong. And everyone who takes the time to read what you said will be all the more dumb for having read it.
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Agreed. Everything the CPL said is incorrect. I will say this speak to another senior NCO first and get their advise or call jag if need be. You can do an IG complaint on anyone however, note, if they open a case you gonna need to have your ducks in a row. Examples, times, dates. Witnesses if need be etc. if you need to get some advise as to if it’s IG or EO feel free to reach out to me.... 1SG BMSG (Join to see)
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You can file an IG on anyone. Whether or not you should or if it will be taken seriously is another matter.
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CMSgt Martin Church
CMSgt Martin Church
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Yes - Anyone can file a complaint against anyone, if they feel justified. But, be sure in your complaint you have proof regarding your complaint and that is NOT a personality Conflict, which is so often to case. You will have to put it in writing, so it would Behoove you to write a DRAFT, before contacting your local IG. It would be prudent for you to contact your First Sergeant, First for guidance. Also, be sure you follow your Chain of Command, beginning with your Immediate Supervisor, then your First Sergeant, Commander and etc. Normally these problems can be resolved at this level. That will probably be the first question any IG will ask you, have you tried to resolve your dispute with your Unit. I am surprised that a SSGT wasn't aware of his Chain of Command - First. Good Luck.
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Short answer is yes.
What is the issue?
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COL John Hudson I would also add that when someone counsels you in writing, they should tell you why they didn't talk to you like a man, first.

Yep, I'm salty about being told I was "spreading hate and discontent".....in writing..... when my subordinates told me I went out of my way to say the decisions higher was making were a good idea.
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
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SFC (Join to see) - ...wait...what? Sarge, did you actually say that you ENDORSED decision a higher command authority made, and was given council in writing? Would I be correct in presuming that the decisions were ones made by the (now) Prior Administration? If that is the case, you might actually have a complaint. I'm truly curious.
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis no, Sir, it was the new authority, about their new project. (I will state here, too, that it WAS a good idea, to make things fair for everyone involved, even though it made my job harder, in theory, though I'm doing better since it happened anyway. I'm a recruiter, and we have assigned areas. My area was the biggest, but I didn't realize by how much until we started the project. I had the capability to enlist twice as many people as a few others, but we all had the same individual mission, so it was kinda uncool, so as an adult I wanted it changed to be right) They were told by someone that I was doing something, or saying something, perhaps saying things in a certain way, to make it seem like I was totally going against their plan. It was that vague, and literally had the phrase "hate and discontent"
It was a real surprise, because when I got pulled into his office, I thought they were giving me the next leadership position.
I think they felt betrayed by a perceived breach of keeping confidence, but everyone knew what we were doing, and how we were doing it.
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GySgt Kenneth Pepper
GySgt Kenneth Pepper
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SFC (Join to see) - A very wise friend of mine had a saying that fits this situation perfectly: "no good deed goes unpunished."
Having walked a mile in your moccasins as a recruiter I can tell you one thing I learned; As a "canvassing recruiter" (one who only serves 1 tour and goes back to your regular MOS), the career recruiters don't care what you think, even if it is based on solid data and undeniable evidence of fact. You are an expendable and replaceable asset.
My advice; make your monthly mission by the 20th and have at least one or two lined up for the next month. Do that and you will have a successful tour and will likely be promoted as a thank you.
If you are interested I have a classic closer that worked at least 20 times while I was on the street.
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