Posted on Oct 12, 2020
Should I wear my 82nd combat patch, given that I deployed as part of a TAP seperate from my brigade and was attached to the 82nd?
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I deployed as part of a TAP seperate from my brigade. The TAP was stretched out into 3 six man teams. My team fell under the 82nd Airborne for approximately 4 months. Since we deployed as a platoon sized element and only my team was attached to the 82nd, would i wear the 82nd patch?
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You would not. You should wear your unit patch that you had on your sleeve when you deployed. I am not a fan of this and think it reminds me of stolen valor. I deployed in 2003 before the rules cleared this up and I would see Soldiers brag about getting 5 or 6 combat patches when they deployed. I deployed with my company. I wear my patch and I also have memo from the 101st for their patch due to supporting them. We worked for the DIV HQ gathering intel for a while. But when I was in the guard I would see a Soldier with a 82nd patch and ask them when they were at Bragg when they would say they were attached. To some of us the patch and the beret means a lot us. Being in the 82nd is an honor.
Another way to look at it is if you were to have been killed in combat where would your name be memorialized? Do you think they would add it to the Div memorial or would your Guard unit memorialize you there? I would wear the patch that would honor me.
Another way to look at it is if you were to have been killed in combat where would your name be memorialized? Do you think they would add it to the Div memorial or would your Guard unit memorialize you there? I would wear the patch that would honor me.
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
CPT (Join to see) - AR 670-1 is clear, if you deploy in an element smaller than a company then you wear the patch of the unit you're attached to. The question comes down to what his orders said. Was a Company (-) or greater from his unit deployed and then his platoon was attached to 82nd? In that case he would wear his unit's SSI. If his unit did not deploy and it was only his platoon that deployed then they would wear 82nd.
I've also personally been in units where the BDE we were attached to came and gave us their patch as part of a combat patch ceremony even though we were deployed as a Battalion element and were not authorized to wear it. The 101st CAB gave everyone in our TF their patch because we were attached to them. Our TF CDR and CSM held a ceremony, accepted it, and then as soon as the 101 CAB CDR left told us all we were not authorized to wear it.
The point is, I've seen a lot of CDRs that want you to show you're a part of their team even though it's not the right answer. If he was working with the 82nd everyday it may have been easier to just wear the patch and be a part of the team then to get harassed everyday by the unit they were attached to for not doing so. Pick your battles.
I've also personally been in units where the BDE we were attached to came and gave us their patch as part of a combat patch ceremony even though we were deployed as a Battalion element and were not authorized to wear it. The 101st CAB gave everyone in our TF their patch because we were attached to them. Our TF CDR and CSM held a ceremony, accepted it, and then as soon as the 101 CAB CDR left told us all we were not authorized to wear it.
The point is, I've seen a lot of CDRs that want you to show you're a part of their team even though it's not the right answer. If he was working with the 82nd everyday it may have been easier to just wear the patch and be a part of the team then to get harassed everyday by the unit they were attached to for not doing so. Pick your battles.
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CW4 Keith Dolliver I agree with you but it's pretty rare to be deployed in an element smaller than a company. Usually a company will deploy in breakdown from there. That is what happened with my company when I deployed in the invasion.
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
CPT (Join to see) - True. It's fairly common in my current career field, but I'll acknowledge for probably 99% of the Army that's not the case. Most likely the scenario is exactly how you laid it out.
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Ask your leadership. If you are authorized to wear it, you should get a memo so stating. It all depends on how you fell under the 82nd. were you assigned, attached, adcon, opcon? If you were officially assigned to them there should be an order somewhere to show it. That is usually the case but I have seen instances where a soldier or group of soldiers were unofficially "on loan" to another unit
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Ah, I remember the "good old days" when people would just wear patches of units they happened to see at the same DFAC as them overseas.
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