Posted on Aug 27, 2020
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I'm working on a job resume and was referencing my ERB for multiple reasons. I hadn't bothered much to have it groomed over & corrected at discharge (huge mistake for many reasons, and a very dysfunctional unit during my time). One thing I noticed was the ASCO in the bottom right block. What bothered me was the code & following definition. I believe the code could have some impact, or if anything, just bothers my integrity & the many paperwork issues I'm now noticing. I believe the code could have been a mistake on my commands part, considering a lot of details of my discharge that were extremely unconventional (but honorable). Many of the legal and medical codes were amended & resubmitted due to a very limited & p*sspoor unit legal team, as well as my units overall status as 'bottom of the priority'.
The ASCO code is listed as "L1 - Under arrest, confinement or pndg mil or crim court action"
Could anyone explain, expand, or answer the following:
1.) Explain ASCO & the L1 code in more detail
2.) What circumstances is this code used?
3.) Could this code be used for non-criminal or negative command action? (ie early separation?)
4.) Could this code have impact on reenlisting, federal employment, federal contracting employment, education, or any receive any other scrutiny? I understand most situations do not warrant reviewing this info with much weight, but the wording is a bit negative on first glance.
I left service barely 6m early on a Chapter 5-17 for PTSD. I spent 4m in a mix of mil & civ in-patient (aka 24hr hopitalization) for a 4m duration, fully supported by my command. This is something I also question. Originally my paperwork was submitted as a Chapter 5-13. My TDS counselor (CPT H) was super supportive of my situation & after review, questioned the 5-13, interpreting it as a more 'negative in long term consequence and unfitting' code; CPT H resubmit my discharge under Chapter 5-17. But after my own looking, a 5-17 has been a 'command cop-out'. Could anyone explain more on Chapter 5-13 & 5-17? Can you help me understand if my naivety & CPT H's interpretation were in the better or worse?
The ASCO code is listed as "L1 - Under arrest, confinement or pndg mil or crim court action"
Could anyone explain, expand, or answer the following:
1.) Explain ASCO & the L1 code in more detail
2.) What circumstances is this code used?
3.) Could this code be used for non-criminal or negative command action? (ie early separation?)
4.) Could this code have impact on reenlisting, federal employment, federal contracting employment, education, or any receive any other scrutiny? I understand most situations do not warrant reviewing this info with much weight, but the wording is a bit negative on first glance.
I left service barely 6m early on a Chapter 5-17 for PTSD. I spent 4m in a mix of mil & civ in-patient (aka 24hr hopitalization) for a 4m duration, fully supported by my command. This is something I also question. Originally my paperwork was submitted as a Chapter 5-13. My TDS counselor (CPT H) was super supportive of my situation & after review, questioned the 5-13, interpreting it as a more 'negative in long term consequence and unfitting' code; CPT H resubmit my discharge under Chapter 5-17. But after my own looking, a 5-17 has been a 'command cop-out'. Could anyone explain more on Chapter 5-13 & 5-17? Can you help me understand if my naivety & CPT H's interpretation were in the better or worse?
ERB
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S1 Personnel NCO
Posted 4 y ago
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1. L1 is UNDER ARREST, CONFINEMENT OR PNDG MIL OR CRIM COURT. Your hospitalization was considered confinement, as there is no ASCO for that.
2. This code can be used for any kind of confinement. ASCO is Assignment Consideration Code, it determines whether you can go to school, deploy or transfer at all, and if so, what the limitations would be.
3. No, it is used for assignment consideration
4. It does not impact reenlistment, that is determined by your RE Code. It does not impact civilian employment, federal or private sector. Most employers only want to see a DD 214. I would be surprised if they ask for an ERB.
Your Ch 5-17 was not a "cop out". 5-13 is a Personality Disorder, 5-17 is Other Designated Physical or Mental Conditions. Both are discharges because the condition significantly
impairs a Soldier’s ability to perform his/her assigned military tasks.
You mention PTSD, which is a disorder brought on by events, not a personality disorder. Personality disorders are caused by biology.
There is no "better or worse" here.
2. This code can be used for any kind of confinement. ASCO is Assignment Consideration Code, it determines whether you can go to school, deploy or transfer at all, and if so, what the limitations would be.
3. No, it is used for assignment consideration
4. It does not impact reenlistment, that is determined by your RE Code. It does not impact civilian employment, federal or private sector. Most employers only want to see a DD 214. I would be surprised if they ask for an ERB.
Your Ch 5-17 was not a "cop out". 5-13 is a Personality Disorder, 5-17 is Other Designated Physical or Mental Conditions. Both are discharges because the condition significantly
impairs a Soldier’s ability to perform his/her assigned military tasks.
You mention PTSD, which is a disorder brought on by events, not a personality disorder. Personality disorders are caused by biology.
There is no "better or worse" here.
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You’re chasing down a rabbit hole that leads to nothing. You received this code when you were flagged. ASCO means assignment considerations. Your ASCO means nothing except a consideration for your branch manager when looking at assignments. You’re kicked out of the Army so it’s not a factor. You were flagged for something legal and that stopped you from PCSing at the time, end of story.
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