Posted on Aug 1, 2020
Will I be arrested if I don’t ship to basic in the national guard?
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Im in the national guard and want to go active duty, why would the active duty recruiter tell me not to ship since the guard won’t release me if I would be put under arrest?
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The AD recruiter is an idiot and not an actual recruiter, nor does he have knowledge of Reaerve Component rules
In the Active Duty you don't really belong to the Military till you ship. In the Reserve Component you belong the day you sign. There is no Delayed Entry Program DEP in the Reserve Component, so there is no DEP separation.
In the Active Duty you don't really belong to the Military till you ship. In the Reserve Component you belong the day you sign. There is no Delayed Entry Program DEP in the Reserve Component, so there is no DEP separation.
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The active duty recruiter is not in your National Guard chain of command. Either he’s telling you what you want to hear, or you are mishearing what he’s saying. The Guard has already made an investment; if you fail to report, the best thing you could expect is an entry level separation, and not because they’re being nice or lenient, but because they’ll want to remove you as expeditiously as possible. Even that is going to take some time. Good luck taking that separation anywhere else. You will have no hope getting in when any other branch figures out that’s what happened. More than likely, not showing up to ship will expose you to all sorts of UCMJ action. And no other branch will touch you.
There is a way to transfer from the Guard to AD. But it requires significant input from your chain, and it’s not something they are going to do right after you get back from AIT. You made a commitment, the Guard is going to expect a return on their investment before they release you to do something else.
There is a way to transfer from the Guard to AD. But it requires significant input from your chain, and it’s not something they are going to do right after you get back from AIT. You made a commitment, the Guard is going to expect a return on their investment before they release you to do something else.
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SSG Laurie Mullen
PVT (Join to see) - I don't think I would trust what he is telling you. If you follow his advice and get into trouble for it, YOU will be the one to face the consequences. He won't get into any trouble because it will be your word against his. If you do get discharged by following his advice there is no guarantee that you will get a waiver.
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PVT (Join to see)
What if i have texts to prove his advice to not ship and that he will get me a waiver?
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SGM (Join to see)
PVT (Join to see) - Those texts might help to get that recruiter fired, but it won't help you at all if you refuse to ship.
Refuse to ship, and you'll be separated from the Guard. You will then have to wait six months before you can attempt to contract again, and that contract will only be possible if a waiver is approved, those aren't guaranteed.
You can just ship, get an MOS, come back and contact an AD recruiter and get a conditional release to go active duty.
Refuse to ship, and you'll be separated from the Guard. You will then have to wait six months before you can attempt to contract again, and that contract will only be possible if a waiver is approved, those aren't guaranteed.
You can just ship, get an MOS, come back and contact an AD recruiter and get a conditional release to go active duty.
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SSgt (Join to see)
SGM (Join to see) - that's right. He would have to wait six months before trying to reenlist. Good catch.
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PVT (Join to see) Here is another post on the same topic. I will let the experts provide the best guidance.
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https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/will-i-be-ordered-to-go-active-if-i-don-t-ship-to-basic
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https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/will-i-be-ordered-to-go-active-if-i-don-t-ship-to-basic
Will I be ordered to go active if I don't ship to basic? | RallyPoint
My dep contract says I'll be ordered to active duty if I don't show up to ship what's the chances of that? And can I be released if I only signed my first contract
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