Posted on Jul 17, 2020
Can a unit violate HQDA EXORD 164-20 and conduct a 100% HT/WT?
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Got notification of a 100% HT/WT, can a unit do this if all current HT/WT scores remain valid until further notice?
I’m not worried, but can the unit flag individuals for this if they have a passing HT/WT?
I’m not worried, but can the unit flag individuals for this if they have a passing HT/WT?
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While the EXORD and current FRAGOs permit current height/weight measurements to remain valid the EXORD does not forbid Commanders from directing a height/weight at their discretion. Soldiers are still responsible to maintain the standards of AR 600-9 even though their old weigh-in remains valid. A new height/weight can still be administered at any time and a Soldier can still be flagged for ABCP. The EXORD simply gives Commanders the ability to extend current weights, it does not forbid new weigh-ins from happening, be they spot checks or even a 100 percent weigh-in, just so long as the whole company isn't crowded in together at once.
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FRAGO 2 3.B.9 states "Soldiers and units will continue to comply with ABCP standards". How can you tell if Soldiers are within standard if you don't measure? A commander can place a flag if a Soldier is not in compliance. The commander is responsible for safety and ensuring mitigation measures are taken (per the order).
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I understand current ht/wt records remain valid, but it doesn't prevent testing.
AR 600-9 says Soldiers should be screened a minimum of every 6 months and Commanders have the authority to direct a body fat assessment on any Soldier that they determine does not present a Soldierly appearance
AR 600-9 says Soldiers should be screened a minimum of every 6 months and Commanders have the authority to direct a body fat assessment on any Soldier that they determine does not present a Soldierly appearance
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You asked if the unit could violate the EXORD, I'm asking if it is worded in such a way that there is a violation. I wouldn't recommend it and I hope that the command has a plan in place to ensure everyone's safety.
You could always ask JAG.
You could always ask JAG.
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From my understanding, it takes an O6 approval to conduct any Ht/Wt right now.
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