Posted on Mar 7, 2020
What happens if a soldier has an APFT that expires in 24 days, but just got a temporary profile for 3 weeks saying no push-ups or sit-ups?
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I have a folder who expires on his APFT in 24 days. He just got a temp profile for 3 weeks saying that he can’t do push-ups or sit-ups; what happens here? Does he take the Record APFT without those events? Does he not take the Record APFT and get flagged for no Record APFT within 1 year? He currently has an award processing and I don’t want to see him lose it.
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The soldier should be allowed the appropriate recovery time after the end of the profile, and then be rescheduled for an APFT.
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LTC Kevin B.
Do you know if there’s a clear cut reg stating that he must be flagged?
Do you know if there’s a clear cut reg stating that he must be flagged?
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LTC Kevin B.
SGT (Join to see) - AR 350-1 covers the PT test. It doesn't explicitly say that someone with a temporary medical profile who fails to take the PT test on time must automatically get flagged. So, the commander has discretion. If they get the profile when their PT score is still valid, that kicks in the temporary profile recovery provision.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
SGT (Join to see) - To get flag, you have to do something that warrants a flag. Being out of tolerance for a record APFT isn't going to get you flagged.
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There is no such thing as a flag for not having an APFT. There is a flag for failing an APFT. The Soldier simply has an APFT with a date that's over a year old. He can take a record APFT and only take the events he has no profile for. Even if he gets a 64 on his APFT that is a valid APFT.
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SSG Brian G.
CPL Earl Kochis - Negative. New regs. Recovery time is now included in the profile time. So once the SM comes off, they are good to go to take an APFT that day.
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CPL Earl Kochis
An APFT can be given by any NCO at any time so shouldn’t be a problem!! A troops health is more important than a number on a piece of paper!SFC (Join to see)
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CPL Earl Kochis negative, a record PT test cannot be given by any NCO at any time. Any program that involves flagging soldiers for non compliance is a Commanders program.
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CPL Earl Kochis
It say his profile is 3 weeks that’s 21 days if you are correct about the profile then he can take a for record within the 24 days and any trained NCO can give a for record pt test in that time
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If it has been 11 months since his last record, why the he'll wasn't he tested prior to this profile?
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Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
7 Ps...
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
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The unit recorded his last two APFTs as diagnostics; no one was tracking until now. The MFR on one of them even stated that it was for a record APFT.
Of course, the unit doesn’t want to acknowledge fault. Instead they just want him taking another APFT.
Of course, the unit doesn’t want to acknowledge fault. Instead they just want him taking another APFT.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SGT (Join to see) If the Soldier was informed the APFT was for record, there is a memo stating it is for record, and you know that it was for record, then take that APFT and get it uploaded into DTMS. Problem solved.
The unit can WANT him to take a new record APFT. Not gonna happen on temp profile.
That being said, the profile should have alternate events listed (where possible) AND (more importantly) should have a date when he can resume normal PT (recovery plan is now part of even a temp profile). Get this Soldier tested on that day.
The unit can WANT him to take a new record APFT. Not gonna happen on temp profile.
That being said, the profile should have alternate events listed (where possible) AND (more importantly) should have a date when he can resume normal PT (recovery plan is now part of even a temp profile). Get this Soldier tested on that day.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
The unit produced a PT card that was marked as an assessment.
He’s fine with taking a new record APFT next month, the issue is that I don’t want him to get flagged for this.
The unit produced a PT card that was marked as an assessment.
He’s fine with taking a new record APFT next month, the issue is that I don’t want him to get flagged for this.
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