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If you spend long enough in the military, you will get hurt at one point or another. If you have 5+ years and you haven't been on at least one profile, then I don't know whether to be impressed or confused.
Whether permanent or temporary, when you are hurt there are certain limitations to what you can do. Do you feel the military is doing enough with these personnel? Do you think 3 saunters around "the block" is enough to ensure those people are staying physically fit?
Whether permanent or temporary, when you are hurt there are certain limitations to what you can do. Do you feel the military is doing enough with these personnel? Do you think 3 saunters around "the block" is enough to ensure those people are staying physically fit?
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The Army has directed that reconditioning PRT be conducted at the battalion level. That means it is the CSM's job to ensure that it is conducted properly. Properly means that it is doing what it is supposed to be doing, which is rehabilitating Soldiers. If profiles are just falling out on their own or in buddy groups the CSM is eventually going to get crushed when the Division CSM stops a couple of those "walkers" gallivanting down the street texting on their cell phones.
All profile Soldiers should be gathered in a central area and broken down by type of profile, red, amber, green (I usually allowed the green to do PT with their platoons). There should be healthy NCOs to take charge and facilitate each group as they conduct PT, preferably those NCOs are Master Fitness Trainers. I allowed early accountability for the groups if they were using the gym so they could get there before it got crowded.
The PA is a huge part of this and I held the medical platoon sergeant responsible for ensuring the PA was tracking. The PA should be making the determination on what group the profile Soldier should be in, or a doctor if injury is above the PA's pay grade.
Building the Soldier Athlete has some good examples of exercises for each group and a lot of the PRT 7-22 exercises can be modified for profiles. As leaders we do a terrible job of taking care of our hurt Soldiers, with just a little effort you can rehabilitate them and get them back in the fight.
The Army has directed that reconditioning PRT be conducted at the battalion level. That means it is the CSM's job to ensure that it is conducted properly. Properly means that it is doing what it is supposed to be doing, which is rehabilitating Soldiers. If profiles are just falling out on their own or in buddy groups the CSM is eventually going to get crushed when the Division CSM stops a couple of those "walkers" gallivanting down the street texting on their cell phones.
All profile Soldiers should be gathered in a central area and broken down by type of profile, red, amber, green (I usually allowed the green to do PT with their platoons). There should be healthy NCOs to take charge and facilitate each group as they conduct PT, preferably those NCOs are Master Fitness Trainers. I allowed early accountability for the groups if they were using the gym so they could get there before it got crowded.
The PA is a huge part of this and I held the medical platoon sergeant responsible for ensuring the PA was tracking. The PA should be making the determination on what group the profile Soldier should be in, or a doctor if injury is above the PA's pay grade.
Building the Soldier Athlete has some good examples of exercises for each group and a lot of the PRT 7-22 exercises can be modified for profiles. As leaders we do a terrible job of taking care of our hurt Soldiers, with just a little effort you can rehabilitate them and get them back in the fight.
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I completely understand, and agree, CSM. However, there are some Chains that do not allow SM to go to the gym for PT. There are certain instances where an "old school" NCO will say "you will walk, because that is how it goes." While, I agree, if a SM is walking properly, they will get a workout. Or, in some units, there is no battalion level Profile PRT simply does not exist. Would you say this is a problem with Seniors not following through on the "trust but verify?"
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I will say that no matter what size of a unit you are in there should be a reconditioning PRT program implemented at the highest level. You are doing an injustice to the injured Soldiers if they are allowed to just "walk". Walking doesn't rehabilitate any injury, especially the way I see the "walkers" execute it around post. Strolling along in a gaggle bullshitting and not walking fast enough to raise your heart rate isn't doing squat!
LTC (Join to see) makes a valid point about having sports medicine professionals embedded or assigned to units. I know the tried a program like that in some basic training units, I am sure the powers that be decided it was easier to go with Master Fitness Trainers (cheaper too).
The weight machines at the gym are a must for reconditioning PRT. If COCs are not letting the profiles use the gym they will never get better. Now, there are bodyweight exercises you can use but the gym gives much better options.
I really don't know what to tell you other than you can do your best to ensure your Soldiers are doing the right thing. I hate to call out my fellow CSMs/SGMs but they are the ones that are responsible, the Army has given them an order and they should be following it. Unfortunately I see every morning as I am running by lone "walkers" that it's not happening.
I will say that no matter what size of a unit you are in there should be a reconditioning PRT program implemented at the highest level. You are doing an injustice to the injured Soldiers if they are allowed to just "walk". Walking doesn't rehabilitate any injury, especially the way I see the "walkers" execute it around post. Strolling along in a gaggle bullshitting and not walking fast enough to raise your heart rate isn't doing squat!
LTC (Join to see) makes a valid point about having sports medicine professionals embedded or assigned to units. I know the tried a program like that in some basic training units, I am sure the powers that be decided it was easier to go with Master Fitness Trainers (cheaper too).
The weight machines at the gym are a must for reconditioning PRT. If COCs are not letting the profiles use the gym they will never get better. Now, there are bodyweight exercises you can use but the gym gives much better options.
I really don't know what to tell you other than you can do your best to ensure your Soldiers are doing the right thing. I hate to call out my fellow CSMs/SGMs but they are the ones that are responsible, the Army has given them an order and they should be following it. Unfortunately I see every morning as I am running by lone "walkers" that it's not happening.
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I have to go with a no on this one, but with a caveat, profile pt like regular pt is only as good/efficient as the effort put forth by the individual Soldier. I know this personally as I was on a permanent no-running profile for the last 6 years of my career. Myself and most of the walkers I conducted our morning "saunters" pushed ourselves as we knew that we had to exert more effort to reach our training heart rates and get a good sweat going than the runners did. But I always ensured that whether alone or in a group that I did what I needed to do "get my blood going" so that I benefitted from my pt sessions, plus the 2.5 mile walk event on the APFT is no joke lol.
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Very true. That is why I maintain that people on profile should make the extra effort, doing PT on their own, etc.
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When I was in I was hurt a few times and now know that if I had gone through some Physical Therapy in stead of waking around a track or "going to the gym" then I would have been better faster. Also, I would have learned a better way of doing things like proper lifting techniques...
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