Posted on Aug 5, 2019
What can be done for a soldier who was flagged multiple times for being overweight, but was never initially counseled or sent to nutrition?
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A female soldier had a kid and it took a little longer to lose the baby weight. She was flagged but never initially counseled or sent to nutrition. After a few months, she finally passed tape twice. This soldier just reenlisted for the second time and was put up for orders. She took 2 weeks of leave for the summer to visit her family and was called off of leave to do a tape test. The test failed and now a flag is back in place.
Height and Weight
PCS
Re-enlistment
Posted >1 y ago
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Well, the old flag was a valid flag. The current flag is a valid flag. However, if the Command tries to initiate a Chapter for HT/WT, the packet is going to get rejected because the Command did not follow the required steps. And, they are not allowed/authorized to backdate counselings.
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LCpl (Join to see) - Is she seeing a nutritionist on her own time or a nutritionist on Army time?
Because here are the steps her unit needs to follow:
1) Counsel her on her most current HT/WT failure.
2) Unit is required to send her to a nutritionist and medical provider to see if there is a medical issue causing her to gain weight.
3) She is to be enrolled in the unit's remedial prt program.
They have to do all these steps TO THE LETTER, because if she comes off and then gets back on in 12 months or less, then the unit can submit a packet for chapter. And, if ANY of the required documents (there is a checklist) are missing or messed up, the packet will be kicked back for corrections. And again, they CANNOT backdate counseling from the first failure.
Because here are the steps her unit needs to follow:
1) Counsel her on her most current HT/WT failure.
2) Unit is required to send her to a nutritionist and medical provider to see if there is a medical issue causing her to gain weight.
3) She is to be enrolled in the unit's remedial prt program.
They have to do all these steps TO THE LETTER, because if she comes off and then gets back on in 12 months or less, then the unit can submit a packet for chapter. And, if ANY of the required documents (there is a checklist) are missing or messed up, the packet will be kicked back for corrections. And again, they CANNOT backdate counseling from the first failure.
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LCpl (Join to see) - And to help herself, she just needs to bust extra ass to lose that weight and/or inches so that she doesn't fail again.
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She is doing this in her off time. Her command skipped steps 1 and 2, went straight to 3.
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LCpl (Join to see) - Then her command are idiots and will get that reality check if/when they try to submit a packet
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Marines cannot be called off leave for the sole purpose of a tape test. The fact that she failed returning from leave appears to be indicative of a problem with controlling her weight. Bottom line is that a chapter will not be valid unless the unit followed all appropriate protocols. She should see Council. Thank you for your service.
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Height and weight is a transferable flag, she can still PCS with the flag in place. Since the counseling and nutritionist consults weren't completed the command won't be able to separate the Soldier until those happen.
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