Posted on Feb 13, 2015
Combatives Training: What is the point? (In RC)
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Maybe this thread applies more to the part time components.
My unit recently did 3 hours of Level 1 training. It was very basic core moves like passing guard, "shrimping", arm lock and roll, etc. We did the same thing last year, and the year before and the year before that. We don't have the training time to do this more often so we never advance our knowledge. We don't develop muscle memory, and there is always a few that end up with minor sprains and strains from the exercise load that they are not accustomed to handle. (we do warm up and stretches, and are taught by level 2 and 3 qualified).
Is this annual rehash doing any good? Do these wrestling moves ever really come into play during combat, and if there is a possibility that the could be used, are RC/NG soldiers able to use them effectively?
My unit recently did 3 hours of Level 1 training. It was very basic core moves like passing guard, "shrimping", arm lock and roll, etc. We did the same thing last year, and the year before and the year before that. We don't have the training time to do this more often so we never advance our knowledge. We don't develop muscle memory, and there is always a few that end up with minor sprains and strains from the exercise load that they are not accustomed to handle. (we do warm up and stretches, and are taught by level 2 and 3 qualified).
Is this annual rehash doing any good? Do these wrestling moves ever really come into play during combat, and if there is a possibility that the could be used, are RC/NG soldiers able to use them effectively?
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1SG (Join to see) You can ask the RC/NG Soldiers how effective combatives training is when they use it in a bar fight...
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1SG (Join to see) Maybe you should check out the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program.
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Don't get my wrong, SFC Wilson Fung. I don't question the value of combatives generally. I question the value of small blocks of annual unit training. I don't see the take away value for the injury risk.
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1SG (Join to see) The refresh training is just for that, refreshment. Individual unit should conduct periodical combatives training accordingly to maintain a Soldier's combatives readiness. However, how practical would that be when you have to do all these mandatory online training, detail, tasking, motor stabilization, and so on? Not to mention that you will need the appropriate facility and planning.
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you are making my point for me. I think the refreshment would be more valuable if every soldier had the full course first
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I would do them regardless. If you think it's pointless, you can look at alternative training... like goat yoga.
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