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From the "Associated Press"
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GUANTANAMO_FREED_DETAINEES?SITE=AP
Gitmo prison closure hampered by freed detainee's turn to IS
WASHINGTON (AP) -- During six years behind bars at Guantanamo Bay, Abdul Rauf insisted he was a lowly Taliban foot soldier who delivered bread and tea to combatants, even though he was really a corps commander. He was released in 2007 and sent home to Afghanistan. Until this week, he was working as the top recruiter in Afghanistan for Islamic State militants.
[EDITORIAL COMMENT:- Although it's going to be pretty hard to do so, I have absolute confidence that a significant number of people are going to blame President Obama for releasing this man - and also that a significant number of people are going to mindlessly repeat that accusation. I mean, after all, wasn't Barack HUSSEIN Obama the President of the United States of America (despite the fact that he was a Muslim born in Kenya) who released Mr. Rauf?]
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GUANTANAMO_FREED_DETAINEES?SITE=AP
Gitmo prison closure hampered by freed detainee's turn to IS
WASHINGTON (AP) -- During six years behind bars at Guantanamo Bay, Abdul Rauf insisted he was a lowly Taliban foot soldier who delivered bread and tea to combatants, even though he was really a corps commander. He was released in 2007 and sent home to Afghanistan. Until this week, he was working as the top recruiter in Afghanistan for Islamic State militants.
[EDITORIAL COMMENT:- Although it's going to be pretty hard to do so, I have absolute confidence that a significant number of people are going to blame President Obama for releasing this man - and also that a significant number of people are going to mindlessly repeat that accusation. I mean, after all, wasn't Barack HUSSEIN Obama the President of the United States of America (despite the fact that he was a Muslim born in Kenya) who released Mr. Rauf?]
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PFC Vincent Gwin
COL Ted Mc - apologize? An apology isn't going to do a thing and no the words you keep putting in my mouth about improper detention of individuals that I seem to be okay with I'm not. Look at my profile and you'll see that I'm a detention officer. Those who have been improperly detained should be mentally evaluated and be placed on a watch list for the next five years, and to be given a settlement for time lost. But I still think that being detained for ten years improperly and next to radical Islamist that they are no longer the innocent people you think they are. But those who are being detained for proper reasons need to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.
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COL Ted Mc
PFC Vincent Gwin Private; When someone is detained on the basis of uninvestigated allegations and whose statements of innocence are completely ignored and those allegations are (many years) later determined to be false and statements of innocence determined to be true, then they are "improperly detained".
I agree with the examination before release, and the "watch list", and the compensation for time lost BUT they also deserve the courtesy of being told that they WERE "improperly detained" and have our regret for doing so expressed to them.
While I have no difficulty is seeing the point that locking someone up with a bunch of REAL terrorists for years is likely to change them from the innocent that they were to someone more aligned with the "terrorists cause" I also can't see how they bear any "fault" for the change and to BLAME someone because they were the RECIPIENT of the actions of the US government FOR the actions of the US government is rather silly - to PUNISH them for those actions is even sillier.
I agree with the examination before release, and the "watch list", and the compensation for time lost BUT they also deserve the courtesy of being told that they WERE "improperly detained" and have our regret for doing so expressed to them.
While I have no difficulty is seeing the point that locking someone up with a bunch of REAL terrorists for years is likely to change them from the innocent that they were to someone more aligned with the "terrorists cause" I also can't see how they bear any "fault" for the change and to BLAME someone because they were the RECIPIENT of the actions of the US government FOR the actions of the US government is rather silly - to PUNISH them for those actions is even sillier.
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PFC Vincent Gwin
COL Ted Mc - I know we got two slightly different views on this subject, it my not seem like it but I respect your view I just don't want to risk the lives of any American lives on or off the battlefield civilian (even though I think quite a few of them are bone heads) or service members. Mine main concern is for the American people over all.
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COL Ted Mc
PFC Vincent Gwin - Private; Mine is too.
However I do wonder if a better "level of protection" could not be provided by actually living up to "The American Ideal" rather than simply locking away as "dangerous to the American people" people who WERE NOT dangerous to the American people until they were locked away by the US government and who only became "dangerous to the American people" because they were "radicalized" by the US government's own actions.
Believe me, some Afghan farmer isn't going to be extremely likely to trade off permanent resident status and a $10,000 per month (tax free) pension [conditional upon good behavior] for a return trip ticket to Afghanistan and nothing else.
However I do wonder if a better "level of protection" could not be provided by actually living up to "The American Ideal" rather than simply locking away as "dangerous to the American people" people who WERE NOT dangerous to the American people until they were locked away by the US government and who only became "dangerous to the American people" because they were "radicalized" by the US government's own actions.
Believe me, some Afghan farmer isn't going to be extremely likely to trade off permanent resident status and a $10,000 per month (tax free) pension [conditional upon good behavior] for a return trip ticket to Afghanistan and nothing else.
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As safe as adopting a rabid dog. If they were not radical before, they are now.
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COL Ted Mc
SFC Pete Kain - Sergeant; If you had infected the dog with rabies in the first place, whose fault would it be - yours or the dog's?
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