Posted on May 1, 2019
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I asked this question about six months ago but I was wondering if anyone has heard different? There are six events and I was still wondering if if you fail one event then you fail the whole test or are they going on a point sustem or something similar? For example the acft is gonna be 6 events so that’s a 600 pt Max. if you score 400 points in 4 or 5 events do you have to do the last two events or has anyone heard anything different? I may be going on permanent profile because a foot condition I was born with has caught up to me so it’s a good chance I will fail the run.
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So just got certified as a lvl 2 acft instructor. If anyone wants all the new latest and greatest information I can email that to them.

But yes if you fail one event you fail the test it is no different then the APFT its like saying well I passed the push ups and sit ups but I failed the run or tape test that means you have still failed the test.
At first I thought it would be horrible but it is absolutely better than the APFT. The run actually seemed a lot better since your body was already worked up before hand.
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Hey can you send me a copy
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SGT(P) (Join to see) Yeah of course just shoot me your email. I sent most the stuff over except for how to make ppl lvl 1 certified and memos ect
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SGT(P) (Join to see) sent. If more info you need later on down the road just let me know.
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Last I heard, they're still going through legalities through JAG because of what you mentioned.
FYSA: Every time there is a new policy or regulation, it has to go through the JAG Corps. Extensive researches, EOs, liabilities, etc... Just like when a Commander puts out a new policy or MFRs (Memorandum For Record), it has to go through Legal to get approved.
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That's what I heard when I was at school at Fort Eustis (where they are testing this new abomination) My guess is that it will be scrapped if there is no consideration for those with pre-existing permanent profiles that limit certain physical activities that are tested.
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Needs alternative events. Seems like they are too lazy to do that.
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Yup! However, I am not sure if they are making it Male and Female standards or just one full single standard across the board. I think that is what is part of the issue too because now we have females in Combat Arms. Not saying they can't, just talking about the scoring system and such.
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They are still gathering data on it. They'll use the data to adjust the standards and establish policies for the test. For example, if most females can't do a single leg tuck, it wouldn't make sense to fail every person who can't do a leg tuck because you'll lose a significant amount of the force
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SFC(P) (Join to see) that's how the pushups were when I took it. It makes no sense because it's supposed to measure your upper body strength. Instead it's just a strictly tricep pushup, which doesn't measure much of your upper body at all. That was my biggest gripe about the test other than 2 miles just seems unnecessarily far for a combat test.
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SFC (Join to see) oh I agree my tricep was burnt after 30. When we had to pitch it this is what we had to say “Purpose and Tactical Significance:
The HRP tests a Soldier’s ability to push an opponent away during hand to hand combat, push a disabled vehicle, and assist a Soldier when getting up from the prone position during individual movement techniques” we’ll sure we push vehicles a lot don’t we hahahahaha
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SFC(P) (Join to see) oh, I understand the reasoning lol. I don't disagree with the pushing or the pushups. I disagree that it's a Tricep pushup. Everything else is a multi plane, compound movement, except this one exercise that's conducted in such a way as to make it an ineffective measure of anything useful.
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CPT Michael Barden I didn't have a problem with it because I switched out sit ups for toes to bar years ago since it was easier on my lower back. But most of the people I saw doing it couldn't hold on for more than 5 reps. I myself only hit nine.
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