Posted on Feb 6, 2015
Do you feel evaluations should change in the Army?
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How raters rate their Soldiers seems like they rate them based on a personal preference they have with their Soldiers as supposed to how the Soldiers overall job performance actually was throughout the entire rating period. This process to me needs to change because those rating others don't seem to realize just how much these evaluations impact our jobs and how they can affect our careers. I feel the system needs to change, and all evaluations should not be submitteed without all counseling's annotated on the evaluation and should be attached as proof that the Soldiers were actually counseled on the dates that are listed on the evaluations. It's a start for improvement. All raters should attend training on how to properly rate others. If Soldiers have not gone through training to be certified to rate others, then they should not be allowed to rate anyone. What are your thoughts on this?
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I especially like your suggestion about the counselings, SFC (Join to see). In my 30 years of active duty and now nine years as a DA civilian, I have seen those counseling dates get pencil whipped - routinely. I attribute it to laziness and a blatant disregard for the Soldier and the standards.
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MAJ David Vermillion
You are right, we know the importance of counseling but like many things we do, we choose to take the easy way out. Planning for these evaluations take time and assets to perform. What are the priorities of the commander, does he allow the assets to perform the evaluations, does he inquire about how they are done or is he like some I have seen and really doesn't want to know the real truth about evaluations. I personally think the written evaluation carries too much weight and are very much inflated. The actual job evaluation should carry much more weight than the written evaluation. Ask the NCOs how they should be evaluated. We seem to evaluate individuals from top to bottom, but what about the subordinates evaluating the leaders, would the picture be the same?
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I would change only two things, but they are important.
1) No opinions
2) No ratings
Only fact based bullets. For each category, just illustrate what that SM did or did not do. No opinions, just factual bullets.
Let the board decide who the best of the best is by reading what people actually did/didn't do, not just looking at arbitrary numbers.
1) No opinions
2) No ratings
Only fact based bullets. For each category, just illustrate what that SM did or did not do. No opinions, just factual bullets.
Let the board decide who the best of the best is by reading what people actually did/didn't do, not just looking at arbitrary numbers.
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These are all great responses and I love the remarks as that is something I will instill when I go up in the ranks. One of the bggest pet peeves of mine is that the Army is still allowing civilians to rate Soldiers. The one evaluation I received from a civilian was a huge slap in the face and never should have been accepted by HRC. I am gathering my paperwork to write up a sustantive appeal as this individual ranked me as a 4 and did up a relief for cause on me just because of the personal vandetta she has with me. I filed an IG complaint and everything, and thank god she is no longer my rater, but wouldn't you being on a QMP board at HRC think there is a red flag to this seeing is both my ratings before and after this on nasty evaluation had me ranked as a 2 "Superior"? Because of that unfortunate evaluation, the places I can PCS to are slim to none. I was told I can only go to Iowa which I am fine with that, but it's sad that our careers lie in the hands of what those around us rate us as and how they write the evaluations. Not to mention the fact I had a SSG and a SFC in my section and on this particular rating no one within my section rated me. Just horrible. I love my job and want to be a great NCO, that is why I feel so strongly about this topic.
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CW5 Jim Steddum
I am sorry you are having to go through this. It sounds like you are taking the appropriate steps. Are you being advised by an attorney?
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