Posted on Feb 4, 2015
Is it appropiate for a prior service member to correct service members on AR 670-1 violations?
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Is it appropriate for any PSMs to correct the violations of AR 670-1 on any currently serving SM? This includes any rank (PVT to O-5). As a PSM who honorably served in the Army, I see many soldiers who violate AR 670-1, And I have corrected most, including SGTs and higher (I am a PV2). Am I wrong for this? And, can we, as PSMs report disrespect after corrections to brigade commanders if corrections are ignored? Thoughts, please.
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NCO till I die! If I see some poor young LT or junior enlisted troop heading towards an ass chewing, I'm going to hook a brother up. I see it as helping, not interfering. We may retire from the leadership position, but not being a leader.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
As leaders, we must enforce and show others what right looks like. Not only do I personally feel that it is our obligation to do so, but something that gives way for others to become better leaders through our actions. I would rather correct someone on the side than to see them blasted by others for being out of regulations.
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Frankly, if I were walking around all ate up (it happens to us all), I would want someone to stop me and square me away. I wouldn't let pride keep me from receiving the correction. The alternative is to be a casual laughingstock until someone with guts DOES fix you or you catch it yourself.
I view it as the equivalent to going on a date with spinach stuck in your teeth, Please tell me.
I view it as the equivalent to going on a date with spinach stuck in your teeth, Please tell me.
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SFC Mark Merino
Although I HIGHLY doubt we catching you slacking 1SG (Join to see).....we got your 6! A young PV2 ran up to a CSM in his greens and locked up in front of him to respectfully inform him that he had a piece of paper sticking out of his pocket. The CSM thanked him (IN BN Dress Green FORMATION!) CSM released him on the spot, and claimed (we will never know the truth) that he did it on purpose and was passed by countless senior leaders and it took a PV2 to correct the deficiency. That really stuck with me over the years.
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Sure, as long as the civilian has the AR-670-1 app on their smart phone and knows what they are talking about and are tactful, why not?
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PO2 (Join to see)
It shouldn't matter if they are active, prior service or a civilian with pride in their military who knows the regulations. If you are out of regs you need a reminder, who cares who it is from as long as it is tactful. The best advice I ever heard was a story of someone taking an ass chewing for someone else's mistake. When it came out in the wash that the person who got corrected didn't make the mistake but didn't say anything to the person chewing them out, the answer to the question of why he said nothing in his defence was "it was good advice." Be humble and no matter who corrects you, you will be thankful for the good advice.
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Nothing wrong with a polite "excuse me Sir/MSG/SGT/CPT/Whatever, your collar is jacked up/you [insert something here] is on crooked/etc/"
Be polite, be professional, and have a plan to kill everyone in the room...wait that is another quote. I guess that works here too!
Be polite, be professional, and have a plan to kill everyone in the room...wait that is another quote. I guess that works here too!
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Marines have the best quotes. Well sometime other services have great quotes too. But those are usually about Marines!
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I usually preface it w/ conversation. In general, I always scan the other person, just like when I was active. If I notice something, I will politely ask, "do you mind if I get your ____?" This is usually not met w/ any ill-temper.
I try to be a little more congenial about it now that I'm not active & may not be fully up-to-date on changes that occur.
I try to be a little more congenial about it now that I'm not active & may not be fully up-to-date on changes that occur.
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GySgt James Kesl
I think it is very appropriate, but once you are out of the military the approach needs to change. If I was on active duty still and my uniform was screwed up and I was unaware, I would appreciate a correction.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
I was at NMITC and one of the MSgts was walking around without nametapes. No one corrected him. He asked why later that day. Then said "If I'm jacked up, let me know"
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