Posted on Feb 19, 2019
Can a soldier be flagged for having a medical condition that is no fault of his own (mainly talking about low T)?
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This is what you call a cherry picker question. I'm sure you know there is no flag for a medical condition. It sounds like you're really asking if someone can be flagged for not meeting standards because of a medical condition.
You can look at a flag form and see all the possible flag codes on there. It's a DA form 268
You can look at a flag form and see all the possible flag codes on there. It's a DA form 268
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PFC Jeffrey Herrington
Many units conduct weigh in and BF taping, if needed, right after the APFT. This is not prohibited, it isn't encouraged, as cited in my prior post, which was copied from the regulation (AR 600-9).
AR 350-1 F-5, g, (3) requires Soldiers be weighed in when they take the APFT or every 6 months, and also encourages a 7-day period after the APFT before weigh in. Again, neither regulation prohibits the practice.
In fact, every record APFT I took was immediately followed by HT/WT.
Soldiers either pass, or fail the APFT.
Soldiers either meet the Army body fat standards, or not.
If a Soldoer passed the APFT, and failed to meet the BF standards, Soldier should have been flagged for failing to meet the BF standards and enrolled in the ABCP (Reason Code K)
If Soldier failed the APFT, and met the BF standards, Soldier should have been flagged for the APFT failure (Reaaon Code J)
Fail both, and that's 2 separate flags (Reason Codes J and K).
Ref. AR 600-8-2
With regard to the Soldier with low T, or hypogonadism. Soldier may want to address the issue with his PCM
Many units conduct weigh in and BF taping, if needed, right after the APFT. This is not prohibited, it isn't encouraged, as cited in my prior post, which was copied from the regulation (AR 600-9).
AR 350-1 F-5, g, (3) requires Soldiers be weighed in when they take the APFT or every 6 months, and also encourages a 7-day period after the APFT before weigh in. Again, neither regulation prohibits the practice.
In fact, every record APFT I took was immediately followed by HT/WT.
Soldiers either pass, or fail the APFT.
Soldiers either meet the Army body fat standards, or not.
If a Soldoer passed the APFT, and failed to meet the BF standards, Soldier should have been flagged for failing to meet the BF standards and enrolled in the ABCP (Reason Code K)
If Soldier failed the APFT, and met the BF standards, Soldier should have been flagged for the APFT failure (Reaaon Code J)
Fail both, and that's 2 separate flags (Reason Codes J and K).
Ref. AR 600-8-2
With regard to the Soldier with low T, or hypogonadism. Soldier may want to address the issue with his PCM
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Concur.
I recall having two females (one as PSG, one as 1SG) with a history of APFT run failures go to sick call and specifically ask to be examined for evidence of fractures to hip and pelvic bones. Both had fractures. When I did this as a 1SG, the PCM called me and asked what made me what medical school I graduated from. I explained that the Soldier was a recent graduate of OSUT, and I had called her OSUT 1SG who was a friend, and he said she had problems there. I went on to explain that it is a common injury that occurs with shorter female Soldiers when doing foot marches with load bearing equipment, and a DS, or other leader, who presses the pace faster than required. This causes the shorter Soldier to take a much longer stride, and leads to stress fractures. I told him if he watched her stride, it would be obvious, as they rotate their hip like someone who has had a hip replacement. He ordered the X-ray and actually called me back and confirmed my suspicions.
This was covered in DS school when I went, and my wife had gotten the same injury when she went to basic.
If you watch the difference between a make and female sprinter coming out of the blocks you'll see a difference in male and female strides.
So referring a Soldier for medical evaluation doesn't have to be a negative thing.
Concur.
I recall having two females (one as PSG, one as 1SG) with a history of APFT run failures go to sick call and specifically ask to be examined for evidence of fractures to hip and pelvic bones. Both had fractures. When I did this as a 1SG, the PCM called me and asked what made me what medical school I graduated from. I explained that the Soldier was a recent graduate of OSUT, and I had called her OSUT 1SG who was a friend, and he said she had problems there. I went on to explain that it is a common injury that occurs with shorter female Soldiers when doing foot marches with load bearing equipment, and a DS, or other leader, who presses the pace faster than required. This causes the shorter Soldier to take a much longer stride, and leads to stress fractures. I told him if he watched her stride, it would be obvious, as they rotate their hip like someone who has had a hip replacement. He ordered the X-ray and actually called me back and confirmed my suspicions.
This was covered in DS school when I went, and my wife had gotten the same injury when she went to basic.
If you watch the difference between a make and female sprinter coming out of the blocks you'll see a difference in male and female strides.
So referring a Soldier for medical evaluation doesn't have to be a negative thing.
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