Posted on Nov 30, 2018
Does your years of service in the NG/USAR count towards active duty retirement?
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I have been in the NG/USAR for a number of years, and I'm looking to go active through the Call to Active Duty program. I'm looking to retire after 20 years, and I hope my years in the NG/USAR counts. I would hate to have to start afresh if I go active.
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I just moved from the ARNG to AD Navy. Your total years of service will be considered in determining your pay date to calculate your pay. Your days on orders will count in calculating your eligible retirement date. All of your retirement points will count once you qualify for AD retirement. E.g. I served in the Guard nine years, I spent a total of 2.5 years on orders and I had retirement points accounting for an additional 2.5 years. I'm paid with 9 years time in service. My retirement was backdated by 2.5 years. Once I serve an additional 17.5years, I will have 22.5 years of qualifiyibg retirement.
Make sure you have thorough documentation before you moved over. I was only able to prove my service to the Navy bc I had saved every LES.
Make sure you have thorough documentation before you moved over. I was only able to prove my service to the Navy bc I had saved every LES.
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SGT Daniel Boland
I just recently transferred from the army NG to active duty. My nine years for time in service was converted to 3 years TIS for AD pay.
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Do you mean active duty basic date or TIS? If you served nine years NG, your TIS should reflect all that time. If it doesn’t, someone did you wrong and you should be able to fight for it. Your active duty basic date will only reflect your time spent on orders vice drill pay or non-drilling time. SGT Daniel Boland
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SGT Daniel Boland
TIS, here’s my situation I enlisted in the Army reserves Oct302008 and went directly from the reserves to the NG with no breaks in service until my contract was up in March 12 2018. March 28 2018 I accepted HPSP (healthcare scholarship) and was placed into IRR for 3 years. Now those 3 years are up and I’m on active duty and commissioned. Instead of being paid as an O3 with over 8 years TIS I’m paid at over 3 years TIS. It looks like finance came to this by taking my 1506 and adding up my any active duty training, inactive duty(points per year in guard/reserves). They took the total points and divided by 365 and it comes out to like 3.2 which I’m assuming is the time they’re paying me for. My PEBD is the day I took the scholarship (March 28th 2018). I was always under the assumption that my TIS would be year for year if i had drilled. I was told by someone to show my NGB22 but they don’t seem interested in that as much.
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Yep. That’s the wrong answer. It actually sounds like they’re utilizing your contract date for HPSP as your PEBD and the equation you listed to establish your Active Duty Base (basic?) Date. You’ll need to pull out whatever records you’ve retained to fight for it but it should get you an extra 5 yrs TIS. I don’t know how to do this on the active army side but someone does. Don’t stop til you find that person. No one who tells you no is going to compensate you if they’re wrong. Don’t accept an answer til you find someone who can get you to yes. As an officer you’ll need to do this for your personnel. Learn to do it for yourself first and you’ll be ahead of the game.
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Your reserve time counts towards a reserve retirement, and towards your time in service for pay purposes.
Aby active time, such as AT or other training, will count towards your active duty retirement. Make sure you keep your retirement points worksheets and and orders for active duty.
Also, I don't think you can go to active duty through COAD. I'm pretty certain it's only a temporary period of active duty. But I've only dealt with COAD a few times.
Aby active time, such as AT or other training, will count towards your active duty retirement. Make sure you keep your retirement points worksheets and and orders for active duty.
Also, I don't think you can go to active duty through COAD. I'm pretty certain it's only a temporary period of active duty. But I've only dealt with COAD a few times.
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SGM, I apologize for not clarifying but my prior enlisted time was active duty time.
SGM, I apologize for not clarifying but my prior enlisted time was active duty time.
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1LT (Join to see) as for the reg, you can pull up the DODFMR 7a...but I really don't recommend it unless you're a masochist. You'll be going through that thing for hours.
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The time counts but there is a formula that calculates you Guard/Reserve into Active Duty time.
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