Posted on Jan 17, 2014
What are your thoughts on the implementation of Instructors being allowed to wear the new Instructor badge?
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It is complete BS because AIT instructors aren't seen as instructors. We were even asked to review the design of the badge like two years ago. When they came out and said it is for NCOES only, it was a slap in the face.
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SFC Minarik,<br><br>I am an AIT Instructor at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri and had a very nice conversation with my SGM at the Transportation School stating that the badge will be Army wide for all instructors. Just be patient and the change will happen. Know that this MILPER Message caused a huge uproar from instructors across the Army as a whole. The intent was to have only NCOES instructors able to be recognized with this as a pilot program but it did not get too far because of the outcry to recognize all instructors. I will post more information as I get it and hope this helps to clear up some fuzzy information for you.<br>
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SFC Stewart,
I'm starting to hear some of the same things now also. It's good that we are being heard and it seems action will be taken to recognize all instructors.
I'm starting to hear some of the same things now also. It's good that we are being heard and it seems action will be taken to recognize all instructors.
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
Recognition is always good - especially when you are molding others,
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SFC Minarik, I agree, fair is fair... however, I do not personally think that a badge is warranted in either case. The problem that I have is where to draw the line.... if certification as an NCOES instructor is deserving of a badge what about unit armorer? Tough course, often demands extra hours of work, not everyone does it... why not give them a badge? Or how about resiliency trainers? Or staff NCO's that have attended training courses for that position? Or any of the other hundreds of positions within the Army that require NCO's and Soldiers to serve outside the normal purview of their MOS? I'm not downplaying the importance of your role in training Soldiers by any means, and I know that it is a tough role to fill indeed, so please do not take it that way at all. I don't really feel that recruiters "need" a badge to recognize what they do, personally (and I am a 79R). It's just my duty to fulfill for the Army, whether I have a fancy chest ornament or not.
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As an additional point, I am still confused as to what awarding a badge has to do with sexual assault prevention other than as a way for the Army to show that a person has held that position and must be infallible as to committing acts of sexual assault... which is ludicrous seeing as how recruiters and drill sergeants (both awarded badges) are still getting hemmed up for sexual assault, harassment, and inappropriate relationships even though they are in these positions of trust and responsibility.
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I do agree that many jobs require extra hours and I would have no problem if nobody received badges. My only issue was the separation of instructors. NCOES instructors vs all other instructors. For example, if they did grant badges for unit armorers but only to those that were in Infantry units.
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Yep, I've got you and the point you are making and I agree in that regard. You want to give badges to instructors? Fine, but give it to all instructors at all levels.... I'm smellin' what you're steppin' in.
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