Posted on Dec 11, 2014
Down Votes! Why does it feel like a counseling statement?
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In one year, I have been down voted 3x. I walk around with my head down for the rest of the day. Is there some serious down voters out there. Maybe it should be changed to Agree and Disagree...
I bet someone is behind a keyboard right now, saying, "I down voted 62 people today, it was a good day".
I will send you a PM if I want to down vote you. I am not thin-skinned but it a litte ridiculous without an explanation...perhaps a down vote requires a reply...I pitch that up the chain of command.
I bet someone is behind a keyboard right now, saying, "I down voted 62 people today, it was a good day".
I will send you a PM if I want to down vote you. I am not thin-skinned but it a litte ridiculous without an explanation...perhaps a down vote requires a reply...I pitch that up the chain of command.
Posted 10 y ago
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I wish RP would require an explanation before allowing them. I know it's suggested, but if you are going to down vote at least post that you disagree.
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Counseling statements were designed to document substandard performance, but more importantly, they were supposed to help mentor a troop and improve those deficiencies. Instead they de-evolved into a "force shaping tool." As a defense counsel I saw too many times where a supervisor would finally get tired of a troop and put them into "hell week" where every single thing they did that irritated the supervisor would go into an LOC to provide documentation in anticipation of an admin separation. This was never the purpose. Some of our best performers have been troops who had trouble fitting in at first. These are the ones who question things (usually to better understand the purpose) which drives a poor supervisor crazy because might not be able to effectively communicate the answers to such questions and take questions as an assault on their authority. The don't recognize that blind adherence without any kind of question can lead to some very bad outcomes, especially if it is a weak/poor leader who subscribes to a "cult of personality" leadership style.
If people want to cast a down vote, they really should consider including a brief explanation of the "why" to help the person receiving the vote understand. Like "I voted down because you made personal, unwarranted and unsupported attacks on the character of X. You should stick to the issue at hand." This is constructive criticism that will help foster better communications. We owe this professional training and guidance to our peers.
I know this because I got 5 LORs and multiple LOCs as a first term airman, in my first assignment. In today's USAF I would have been admin separated, yet once I got my stuff together I went on to win "Base Airman of the Month" at that same base. People change.
If people want to cast a down vote, they really should consider including a brief explanation of the "why" to help the person receiving the vote understand. Like "I voted down because you made personal, unwarranted and unsupported attacks on the character of X. You should stick to the issue at hand." This is constructive criticism that will help foster better communications. We owe this professional training and guidance to our peers.
I know this because I got 5 LORs and multiple LOCs as a first term airman, in my first assignment. In today's USAF I would have been admin separated, yet once I got my stuff together I went on to win "Base Airman of the Month" at that same base. People change.
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I think that I've only been voted "Down" on one comment that I've posted on RallyPoint. It didn't really bother me except that I was curious to know what the person thought. Seriously, I'd really like to know. It's not as though I had said that I was "For" or "Against" something.
If seems that voting up or down is like saying "Yes" or "No" which doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless the person is asking something that can be logically answered that way.
I think that any up or down vote should be accompanied by a comment unless they are asked to merely vote up or down on a topic. It seems only fair...
If seems that voting up or down is like saying "Yes" or "No" which doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless the person is asking something that can be logically answered that way.
I think that any up or down vote should be accompanied by a comment unless they are asked to merely vote up or down on a topic. It seems only fair...
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CPT Jack Durish I'm not sure, I guess one SM explained and the other two well, one said it was a mistake, which a can easily happen on a small smart phone. However, I stick to my guns, admin should change the requirement, negative votes require an explanation.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
I've been down voted - I just think to myself - Hum, guess someone doesn't agree with me. Move on, it's not like someone is going to take away your MRE! We all move to a different drummer.
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CPT Jack Durish
SGM Mikel Dawson Is the threat of someone taking your MRE worrisome? I wouldn't know. I've never eaten one
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