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Why isn’t weight a good physical standard?
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By itself no - because you could have two people weigh the same but one is probably in better shape than the other. In fact, I've seen stories where women have gotten in shape but their weight was the same - but you can tell physically that they improved their physicality.
However - if someone weighs like 500+ lbs - I doubt they're in very good physical standing - like the people on my 600 lb life. (My daughter is 3 1/2 and loves the show for the surgical part - it depresses me and some of them make me mad).
There's always the underweight people too. Just because someone is "thin" doesn't mean healthy either.
However - if someone weighs like 500+ lbs - I doubt they're in very good physical standing - like the people on my 600 lb life. (My daughter is 3 1/2 and loves the show for the surgical part - it depresses me and some of them make me mad).
There's always the underweight people too. Just because someone is "thin" doesn't mean healthy either.
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It is a good indicator of physical condition when combined with other data, in of it self it is not an overall benchmark of physical condition
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1stSgt (Join to see) my first response is because muscle weighs more than fat. But this argument tends to fall because, while someone w/ more muscle may weigh the same as someone with more fat, the person with more fat will obviously be physically bigger.
That being said, I had a buddy that was discharged around the same time as me because he was "overweight". He had, about 10% body fat, but was all muscle - your typical "brick sh*thouse". Of course, that was 2000, so retention wasn't a huge focus as "nothing was going on".
That being said, I had a buddy that was discharged around the same time as me because he was "overweight". He had, about 10% body fat, but was all muscle - your typical "brick sh*thouse". Of course, that was 2000, so retention wasn't a huge focus as "nothing was going on".
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CPT Lawrence Cable - True. I think we could, honestly, get rid of tape, period. We need to focus on functional fitness. Push-ups, Sit-ups, and run don't adequately measure how a member is going to perform during duty.
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SGM Erik Marquez
CPT Lawrence Cable - " I'm not trying to defend it, I thinks it's arbitrary and they should do the only test that is almost always accurate, the submersion test, if you fail the tape. OTOH"
At one time the "Gold Standard" was water submersion.. but no longer is it that way.
While still very accurate, there are other tests that are as or more accurate and does not require a bathing suit...
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DEXA (Dual-energy X-ray Absorptiometry) Scan. In a DEXA scan, X-ray technology is used to estimate lean tissue, bone, mineral, and fat across regions of the body with amazing accuracy.
Underwater Weighing.
Bod Pod (Whole Body Plethysmography)
And I agree, whatever standard and methods implemented world wide that every unit can do with minimal equipment and training in the field is decided upon, it should not be the test for derogatory administrative actions . If the SM fails the "field test" they should be referred to medical personal and administered one of the "Gold Standard" body fat tests. THAT test should be the determining factor in administrative action.
Clearly its not feasible to equip every unit with a Body Pod or water dunk tank.... but having one 4 per post and 1 per separate unit is not unreasonable.
At one time the "Gold Standard" was water submersion.. but no longer is it that way.
While still very accurate, there are other tests that are as or more accurate and does not require a bathing suit...
Top three often cited as
DEXA (Dual-energy X-ray Absorptiometry) Scan. In a DEXA scan, X-ray technology is used to estimate lean tissue, bone, mineral, and fat across regions of the body with amazing accuracy.
Underwater Weighing.
Bod Pod (Whole Body Plethysmography)
And I agree, whatever standard and methods implemented world wide that every unit can do with minimal equipment and training in the field is decided upon, it should not be the test for derogatory administrative actions . If the SM fails the "field test" they should be referred to medical personal and administered one of the "Gold Standard" body fat tests. THAT test should be the determining factor in administrative action.
Clearly its not feasible to equip every unit with a Body Pod or water dunk tank.... but having one 4 per post and 1 per separate unit is not unreasonable.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SGM Erik Marquez - The M16 was still the Army's Battle Rifle when I was last Active Reserve, so I'm glad to see that there are better methods. Now if they just put you and me in charge long enough to make that policy, things would work a lot better.
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SGM Douglas Vidakovich - Like I said earlier. I'm not aware of the full story, only what he told others. The dude was a natural athlete, but he was on a different flight than I was, so I don't know how his performance was.
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