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I have been taught in ALC that the supply NCO is rated directly by the CDR and reports to the CDR. I was referred in ALC to reserach AR 735-5, 2-8, # 4 which states that the follows:
"(4) Custodial responsibility. The obligation of an individual for property in storage, awaiting issue, or turn-in to
exercise reasonable and prudent actions to properly care for, and ensure proper custody, safekeeping, and disposition of
the property are provided. Custodial responsibility results from assignment as a supply sergeant, supply custodian,
supply clerk, or warehouse person, and is rated by, and answerable directly to, the accountable officer or the individual
having direct responsibility for the property.
"(4) Custodial responsibility. The obligation of an individual for property in storage, awaiting issue, or turn-in to
exercise reasonable and prudent actions to properly care for, and ensure proper custody, safekeeping, and disposition of
the property are provided. Custodial responsibility results from assignment as a supply sergeant, supply custodian,
supply clerk, or warehouse person, and is rated by, and answerable directly to, the accountable officer or the individual
having direct responsibility for the property.
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When I was in command I rated my supply NCO. Not all company sized elements have a XO. However, the commander is given all responsibility (including supply) for the organization in which he/she assumes command. The supply personnel are the subject matter experts there to assist and oversea the supply management on behalf of the commander working for him/her. So why wouldn't the commander rate the supply sergeant?
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The question is answered in AR 623-205 Noncommissioned Officer Evaluation Reporting System, not AR 735-5 Property Accountability Policies
AR 623-205 states in part:
"2–4. Rules for designating the rater
a. The rater must be—
(1) The immediate supervisor of the rated NCO and designated as the rater for a minimum period of 90 rated days.
(See paras 3-30, 3-32, 3-33, 4-12, and 5-12 for exceptions.)
(2) A sergeant or above and senior to the rated NCO by either pay grade or date of rank (see AR 600-20). If the NCO is on a recommended list for promotion to one of the top three NCO grades and is serving in an authorized position for the new grade, then he or she may rate any NCO he or she supervises, if after the rater’s promotion he or she will be senior in pay grade or date of rank to the rated NCO. An NCO frocked to the grade of 1SG, SGM, or CSM and serving in an authorized 1SG, SGM, or CSM position may rate any NCO he or she supervises, if after promotion he or she will be senior to the rated NCO by either pay grade or date of rank."
And that my friends usually points to the company XO, who is assigned direct responsibility for the supply room and property accountability other then mandatory inventory 100 or 10 percent's done by the commander.
If not the XO because the commander personally and directly supervises the company supply sergeants daily duties (how the heck does he have time for that and not ignore his other duties??), then yes I would see the commander as the SM providing " immediate supervisor of the rated NCO"
It all comes down to the command team clearly stating duties and responsibilities..
In one unit I was the supply sergeants rater, because the commander tasked me with supervising the supply room, our XO at the time was not capable and the commander did not have the time to do so.
AR 623-205 states in part:
"2–4. Rules for designating the rater
a. The rater must be—
(1) The immediate supervisor of the rated NCO and designated as the rater for a minimum period of 90 rated days.
(See paras 3-30, 3-32, 3-33, 4-12, and 5-12 for exceptions.)
(2) A sergeant or above and senior to the rated NCO by either pay grade or date of rank (see AR 600-20). If the NCO is on a recommended list for promotion to one of the top three NCO grades and is serving in an authorized position for the new grade, then he or she may rate any NCO he or she supervises, if after the rater’s promotion he or she will be senior in pay grade or date of rank to the rated NCO. An NCO frocked to the grade of 1SG, SGM, or CSM and serving in an authorized 1SG, SGM, or CSM position may rate any NCO he or she supervises, if after promotion he or she will be senior to the rated NCO by either pay grade or date of rank."
And that my friends usually points to the company XO, who is assigned direct responsibility for the supply room and property accountability other then mandatory inventory 100 or 10 percent's done by the commander.
If not the XO because the commander personally and directly supervises the company supply sergeants daily duties (how the heck does he have time for that and not ignore his other duties??), then yes I would see the commander as the SM providing " immediate supervisor of the rated NCO"
It all comes down to the command team clearly stating duties and responsibilities..
In one unit I was the supply sergeants rater, because the commander tasked me with supervising the supply room, our XO at the time was not capable and the commander did not have the time to do so.
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SGM John Latham, PMP
Erik, I agree. In every one of my 1SG positions, either the XO or I rated the Supply SGT; as you say, there is no way the Company Cdr can do his/her job and still personally and directly supervise the supply sergeant.
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In every organization I have been a part of, the XO was the rater for the commodity shops.
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I always rated my Supply NCO, and all CDR'S should. He/she is the one you have entrusted to properly manage your property and should be rated by you with input provided by the XO. I have seen terrible situations develop in the supply channels because the NCO does not have a direct path to the CDR and only does what the XO directs. This is especially true when the XO has no idea what consequences develop from their choices. Trust your XOs with a lot, but when things come up missing theitheir name isn't on the SOC/FLIPL.
I received initial pushback from my BC, because he didn't want to senior rate a SSG and then send it to BDE for review. I was able to change his mind with the AR quoted above and reminding him how he was always harping on the importance of supply discipline.
I received initial pushback from my BC, because he didn't want to senior rate a SSG and then send it to BDE for review. I was able to change his mind with the AR quoted above and reminding him how he was always harping on the importance of supply discipline.
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MSG Thomas Currie
" received initial pushback from my BC, because he didn't want to senior rate a SSG and then send it to BDE for review."
THIS has been the issue in many cases I have seen. In my day, you almost always saw the Supply Sergeant rated by the 1SG or the XO either because the CO couldn't/wouldn't take the time, or because of pressure about the senior rater and reviewer positions.
THIS has been the issue in many cases I have seen. In my day, you almost always saw the Supply Sergeant rated by the 1SG or the XO either because the CO couldn't/wouldn't take the time, or because of pressure about the senior rater and reviewer positions.
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