Posted on Aug 24, 2017
Is the new White House policy of banning Transgender Service Members correct?
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James Mattis
Donald Trump
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I take testosterone, the Army kicks me out for using drugs.
A female takes testosterone. "I'm becoming a man!" Gets to continue with their career as "a man" using testosterone.
I fail a PT test. I get flagged and threatened with separation.
Another guy fails a PT test. "I'm trans! I'm a woman!" Continues career with PT graded on the female scale.
I get depressed because someone close to me dies or a long term relationship ends and the Army looks at me like I'm broken and could potentially send me packing.
Someone decides they don't like themselves so they want to mutilate their body and become someone else. Army says "Sure, come on! We'd love to have you!"
I can do this all day.
A female takes testosterone. "I'm becoming a man!" Gets to continue with their career as "a man" using testosterone.
I fail a PT test. I get flagged and threatened with separation.
Another guy fails a PT test. "I'm trans! I'm a woman!" Continues career with PT graded on the female scale.
I get depressed because someone close to me dies or a long term relationship ends and the Army looks at me like I'm broken and could potentially send me packing.
Someone decides they don't like themselves so they want to mutilate their body and become someone else. Army says "Sure, come on! We'd love to have you!"
I can do this all day.
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SFC Scott Parkhurst
SSG (Join to see) - It's nice to see that you read "that" book so much....May I ask why you don't read on the real subject matter...just to be fair? As a former police officer I made it my job to be fair and hear both sides of the story. I wanted and needed to know what made people tick. And as a medic too...You seem to be very "bitter" or angry towards the transgender community? Do you even know one? Yes I understand this is a sensitive topic I get it....but I'm certainly not hateful and saying unkind things about them. Like "mutitalate" etc. Not cool my friend.....Your a SGT. Start acting like one....with all do respect, we as NCO's must have compassion whether or not you like the person or not and we must be careful of what we say and our behavior as our soldiers see us and it effects them. You just might have a transgender in your Unit right now. Morale is so very important and you control that...you lead by example. If you hate, they'll hate...are you following me? Are we good Sgt.? Look, I'm not being a dick here, just being calm. thanks Sgt.
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SSG Brian G.
MSgt Mike Mikulski - What you presented has nothing to do with my post, which is on Gender dysphoria. Your supplied article is more in line with the effects that LGTB suffer due to the stigma and social consequences of their 'coming out," while Gender Dysphoria has to do with them not feeling at home in their own skin. There is a conflict between how they were born and how they feel/perceive themselves to be in terms of gender identity. The percentage of trans individuals is low in relation to the overall trans population.
Gender dysphoria involves a conflict between a person's physical or assigned gender and the gender with which he/she/they identify. People with gender dysphoria may be very uncomfortable with the gender they were assigned, sometimes described as being uncomfortable with their body (particularly developments during puberty) or being uncomfortable with the expected roles of their assigned gender.
Gender dysphoria involves a conflict between a person's physical or assigned gender and the gender with which he/she/they identify. People with gender dysphoria may be very uncomfortable with the gender they were assigned, sometimes described as being uncomfortable with their body (particularly developments during puberty) or being uncomfortable with the expected roles of their assigned gender.
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SSG Stephen Arnold
Gender Dysphoria is the "new" term. Gender Identity Disorder was changed to Gender Dysphoria in the DSM5. Not for scientific reasons, but for social reasons.
This is not the first time such a decision has been made from the editors of the DSM, either.
This is not the first time such a decision has been made from the editors of the DSM, either.
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SSG Stephen Arnold
When dealing with human behavior it often is necessary to use such terms.
That doesn't excuse bending to social pressures to make diagnostic changes.
That doesn't excuse bending to social pressures to make diagnostic changes.
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This decision is way above my paygrade. But transgendered people aside, if a certain type of person either A. cost more to train and maintain or B. will diminish the war fighting ability of the US military then yes, the decision is correct. People with peanut allergies can't serve. People with only one good eye can't serve, people belonging to communist groups can't serve, the list goes on and on. If he made the decision because he doesn't like transgendered people then it's wrong.
And please don't see this as an opportunity to ask me why transgendered people either cost more to train/maintain or diminish our war fighting ability. I never said they did. But if the president's decision was made based on something like that, then it's the right call. As I said, this is above my pay grade and my opinions on it mean squat.
And please don't see this as an opportunity to ask me why transgendered people either cost more to train/maintain or diminish our war fighting ability. I never said they did. But if the president's decision was made based on something like that, then it's the right call. As I said, this is above my pay grade and my opinions on it mean squat.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
If there any reason to believe the Presidents decision was based on facts since he did not wait for the DOD study to be finished.
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MAJ (Join to see)
1stSgt Nelson Kerr I have no idea. I really don't keep up with it all that closely.
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